Player Watch: Serge Aurier

Everlasting Seconds · Feb 15, 2018

Tottenham vs. Everton, West Ham, Burnely and Brighton proved that Aurier is a very good RB that we are fortunate to have. Imagine that we have both Trippier and Aurier. Some just won't be satisfied.

archiewasking · Feb 15, 2018

Apologies if this has already been posted, but Ferdinand in the studio game analysis, said he'd seen Aurier quite a few times, even before he joined us, and doesn't rate him as a good defender at all. If he's going to make it with us, Poch will need to really coach his decision making big time.

mattie g · Feb 15, 2018

archiewasking said:
Apologies if this has already been posted, but Ferdinand in the studio game analysis, said he'd seen Aurier quite a few times, even before he joined us, and doesn't rate him as a good defender at all. If he's going to make it with us, Poch will need to really coach his decision making big time.

Bet if Aurier played for ManU then Rio would be singing a different tune.

archiewasking · Feb 15, 2018

mattie g said:
Bet if Aurier played for ManU then Rio would be singing a different tune.

Honestly don't think so. He's dug out their defenders on a number of occasions this year.

Serge is often just reckless imo, not the greatest trait in a defender.

walton · Feb 15, 2018

Typifies one of the limiting factors of this squad (if we're looking to be the best), and that is the tendency to make costly mistakes. Hoping this can be coached out otherwise it'll hold us back (City are rutghless in the lack of critical mistakes they make across the starting XI).

BringBack_leGin · Feb 15, 2018

Luke Shaw, Nathaniel Clyne, Danny Rose, Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier, Ben Davies.

mattie g · Feb 15, 2018

archiewasking said:
Honestly don't think so. He's dug out their defenders on a number of occasions this year.

Serge is often just reckless imo, not the greatest trait in a defender.

I completely agree that he's reckless. I hadn't seen him play live before he joined us, but the videos of him were littered with two-legged slide tackles, which is indicative of a player who makes rash decisions and needs to be taught better technique. I believe that Poch can coach better decision-making and that technique into him, but it's going to take time.

Japhet · Feb 15, 2018

He over-reacts to pressure at the moment. He panics and lunges in if he thinks a player will get past him and that isn't a good trait for a fullback. The problem can be alleviated to a large extent if his positioning gets better which should be relatively easy to coach. Other than that, he needs to learn to stay on his feet at all costs. Any sliding tackle these days gives the Ref a decision to make. I also think we're much better with a back 3, particularly when Toby gets back, and that allows the CB on each side to cover the FB from a closer starting point.

Styopa · Feb 15, 2018

Luka Van der Bale said:
Why is this about Trippier vs Aurier? Trippier has been brilliant recently. But some people seem to be using that as a dig at anyone who rates Aurier. Bizarre.

To be fair there has been a fairly noisy contingent insisting that Aurier should be starting against the higher quality opposition and Trippier utilized against the lower and mid table teams only. People will inevitably make comparisons.

My own view is that Aurier has massive potential and bundles of natural ability. His mistakes, which tend to be costly, are the kind of thing I believe can be coached out of him, he can be coached to become better at decision making and positioning and to stay on his feet especially in and around the penalty box. He is still new to the team and to England and that also needs to be taken into account. Right now though he always looks like he's one rash tackle away from a red card or giving away a penalty.

DJS · Feb 15, 2018

BringBack_leGin said:
Luke Shaw, Nathaniel Clyne, Danny Rose, Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier, Ben Davies.

Not sure why you've listed those full backs but if he gets back to full fitness I would love Clyne at Spurs.

Always been a massive fan of his since his Palace days.

rossdapep · Feb 15, 2018

On Tuesday Aurier looked clumsy and looked like he wasn't completely confident with himself and made some mistakes that he normally doesn't make.

This is not my opinion but the opinion of someone who has worked with him.

He believes that all that he needs is a run of games, as Aurier on Tuesday wasn't the Aurier he believes him to be. Although he improved as the game went on.

He also thinks that Aurier is at the best club in terms of his development.

viktorviktor · Feb 15, 2018

DJS said:
Not sure why you've listed those full backs but if he gets back to full fitness I would love Clyne at Spurs.

Always been a massive fan of his since his Palace days.

Fullbacks that Poch improved massively. Aurier is already decent - just not against Juve and Real - and will get better.

BringBack_leGin · Feb 15, 2018

DJS said:
Not sure why you've listed those full backs but if he gets back to full fitness I would love Clyne at Spurs.

Always been a massive fan of his since his Palace days.

all have massively improved under our manager.

DJS · Feb 15, 2018

BringBack_leGin said:
all have massively improved under our manager.

Ah I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

double0 · Feb 15, 2018

I hope people will be patient with Aurier. He has alot of qualities he's much more rounded imo than Trippier. Like Son and others before, Aurier might need a season will...I just hope he's given a chance

fatpiranha · Feb 15, 2018

I wasn't thrilled when we signed Aurier but he's our now so we need to give him a chance.

He has decent physical attributes in pace and strength. He's also not afraid to tackle. The rest can be worked on :cautious:

. I'm sceptical but Poch has improved players with a lot less going for them than Serge. If he has the ability to learn :unsure:

he's got a great teacher.

zoneD · Feb 16, 2018

Japhet said:
He over-reacts to pressure at the moment. He panics and lunges in if he thinks a player will get past him and that isn't a good trait for a fullback. The problem can be alleviated to a large extent if his positioning gets better which should be relatively easy to coach. Other than that, he needs to learn to stay on his feet at all costs. Any sliding tackle these days gives the Ref a decision to make. I also think we're much better with a back 3, particularly when Toby gets back, and that allows the CB on each side to cover the FB from a closer starting point.

...agree - Aurier has to learn to use his feet to get back into position when he is beaten and not dive in rashly from behind with a last-ditch effort...if he can fix his positioning and decision making, his athleticism will make him an asset at RB...

COYS

Ron Burgundy · Feb 16, 2018

zoneD said:
...agree - Aurier has to learn to use his feet to get back into position when he is beaten and not dive in rashly from behind with a last-ditch effort...if he can fix his positioning and decision making, his athleticism will make him an asset at RB...

COYS

Yup. Until then however....

There’s a good player in there for sure, but imagine a scenario where they score that pen and we don’t turn the game around in the way we did: right now he’s be in the middle of his crucifixion. He’s have been savaged by everyone.

It was the eventual result that spared him. He needs to cut that shit out - it’s just so basic

thelak · Feb 17, 2018

Surely right now KWP is lower risk to play than Serge

Nothing I’ve seen in KWPs game suggests he is anywhere near as reckless as Serge who does this every crazy lunge thing every other game it seems

Shadydan · Feb 17, 2018

thelak said:
Surely right now KWP is lower risk to play than Serge

Nothing I’ve seen in KWPs game suggests he is anywhere near as reckless as Serge who does this every crazy lunge thing every other game it seems

And if he makes any mistakes it could potentially kill his confidence, you need to tread carefully with young players, mental strength need to be taken into account, not just pure ability alone.

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