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Dougal

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Erm.

Meltdowns occur on here ...

When teamsheets are announced 1 hour before kick off.
When we go a goal down.
When Dele or Sonny miss a tap in.
When Lloris kicks a ball into touch.
When Sissoko is brought on/off

Plus many more theatrical moments during a match.
That’s only the match meltdowns. People meltdown at 2am on here. In my day you had a wank and went back to sleep.
 

'O Zio

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Bellerin can’t blame AFTV for cashing in on their shitness. The channel would still be there if they were winning, the fans would still be there too. It’s just of a financial benefit that they aren’t. And how many fans actually ”get a financial benefit from their club? I’ve always said it, fair play to Robbie. Supports through thick and thin, but he can only work with what they give him.

The channel may still exist if they were winning, but a huge party of their success/notoriety comes from the whole Wenger Out thing and a significan % of their viewers are not Arsenal fans but rival fans having a laugh at them. Robbie knows that full well and as you say, fair play to the bloke, but AFTV's huge success is strongly linked to Arsenal's failures on the pitch. That's all Bellerin is trying to say.
 

Dougal

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The channel may still exist if they were winning, but a huge party of their success/notoriety comes from the whole Wenger Out thing and a significan % of their viewers are not Arsenal fans but rival fans having a laugh at them. Robbie knows that full well and as you say, fair play to the bloke, but AFTV's huge success is strongly linked to Arsenal's failures on the pitch. That's all Bellerin is trying to say.
Exactly, so he needs to get his own house in order as the fans are there either way and it’s him and his teammates that are causing the success of the channel. He can’t blame the channel.
 

'O Zio

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Exactly, so he needs to get his own house in order as the fans are there either way and it’s him and his teammates that are causing the success of the channel. He can’t blame the channel.

I don't think he was blaming the channel, he's just saying how can you call yourself a fan when half the time you're rooting for them to keep failing because it's better for business. Robbie pretty much directly profits from his team's failings, and that's up to him obviously, but it's that conflict of interest that Bellerin is talking about. He's not saying "We'd be good if it wasn't for AFTV". Although to be fair, I'm sure it doesn't help at all.
 

Dougal

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I don't think he was blaming the channel, he's just saying how can you call yourself a fan when half the time you're rooting for them to keep failing because it's better for business. Robbie pretty much directly profits from his team's failings, and that's up to him obviously, but it's that conflict of interest that Bellerin is talking about. He's not saying "We'd be good if it wasn't for AFTV". Although to be fair, I'm sure it doesn't help at all.
I don’t think Robbie has ever indicated he’s pleased with the failure. Yeah, he’s making a buck but that’s due to luck when it came to timing, he has no control over it. But if you see him on We Are Tottenham TV he’s a fan first and foremost.
 

'O Zio

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I don’t think Robbie has ever indicated he’s pleased with the failure. Yeah, he’s making a buck but that’s due to luck when it came to timing, he has no control over it. But if you see him on We Are Tottenham TV he’s a fan first and foremost.

I don't know the bloke so can't really comment on weather he is a fan or businessman first. All I'm saying is it's a bit of a conflict of interest and that's what Bellerin is getting at. At no stage does he try and claim that AFTV is the cause of Arsenal's problems, I'm sure he knows full well that it's on him and the team to sort themselves out. That said, I don't think it's helpful that the whole Wenger Out thing and all the constant moaning is massively exaggerated and repeated ad nauseum every week on AFTV/twitter etc. It's definitely feeding the poisonous atmosphere at the club.
 

Dougal

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I don't know the bloke so can't really comment on weather he is a fan or businessman first. All I'm saying is it's a bit of a conflict of interest and that's what Bellerin is getting at. At no stage does he try and claim that AFTV is the cause of Arsenal's problems, I'm sure he knows full well that it's on him and the team to sort themselves out. That said, I don't think it's helpful that the whole Wenger Out thing and all the constant moaning is massively exaggerated and repeated ad nauseum every week on AFTV/twitter etc. It's definitely feeding the poisonous atmosphere at the club.
Chicken and Egg. Perfect Storm. Either way, love it.
 

spurs mental

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I don't know the bloke so can't really comment on weather he is a fan or businessman first. All I'm saying is it's a bit of a conflict of interest and that's what Bellerin is getting at. At no stage does he try and claim that AFTV is the cause of Arsenal's problems, I'm sure he knows full well that it's on him and the team to sort themselves out. That said, I don't think it's helpful that the whole Wenger Out thing and all the constant moaning is massively exaggerated and repeated ad nauseum every week on AFTV/twitter etc. It's definitely feeding the poisonous atmosphere at the club.

I personally hope it continues like this for the next century..
 

Colonel_Klinck

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go to 55.0, thank me later, comedy gold


I have plenty of Gooner mates but Ty is a fucking idiot. He even winds up Gooners. When I heard him say that someone was "insulting his fan base" in an argument my opinion of him as a **** was sealed.
 

Gb160

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We've discussed this before and I don't mean this in an insulting way, but I honestly think Ty has a condition.
For that reason I don't laugh at him or let him wind me up.

Claude's funny as fuck though when he starts losing his shit.
 

Lilbaz

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We've discussed this before and I don't mean this in an insulting way, but I honestly think Ty has a condition.
For that reason I don't laugh at him or let him wind me up.

Claude's funny as fuck though when he starts losing his shit.

Yet claude is the one who suffers mental health problems and almost committed suicide.
 

Gb160

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Yet claude is the one who suffers mental health problems and almost committed suicide.
Oh I know about Claude's problems with depression and I feel for the bloke, he's one of the only ones on there who comes across as a genuine fan and also a pretty ok bloke.
 

'O Zio

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Oh I know about Claude's problems with depression and I feel for the bloke, he's one of the only ones on there who comes across as a genuine fan and also a pretty ok bloke.

Claude is the only one who's not a complete tool to be honest. The rest of them are either clearly putting on exaggerated caricatures of themselves (e.g.Ty, Troopz) or are just outright ****s (e.g. DT). There are a few others but they're usually just idiots with stupid opinions.
 

Shadydan

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Claude is the only one who's not a complete tool to be honest. The rest of them are either clearly putting on exaggerated caricatures of themselves (e.g.Ty, Troopz) or are just outright ****s (e.g. DT). There are a few others but they're usually just idiots with stupid opinions.

Ty is actually like that in real life, he had an argument with a 12 year old on a fan radio station and he wouldn't let him get a word in.

He's been seen arguing with a bunch of Watford fans, they were kids no older than 14 years old.
 

'O Zio

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Ty is actually like that in real life, he had an argument with a 12 year old on a fan radio station and he wouldn't let him get a word in.

He's been seen arguing with a bunch of Watford fans, they were kids no older than 14 years old.

Yeah but all of that is still when he's in the public eye and has to keep up his persona. I'm highly skeptical that he's like that when he's at home with his missus/blowup doll from the Arsenal club shop.
 

Shadydan

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Yeah but all of that is still when he's in the public eye and has to keep up his persona. I'm highly skeptical that he's like that when he's at home with his missus/blowup doll from the Arsenal club shop.

There's absolutely no way this is an act

 

'O Zio

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There's absolutely no way this is an act



I don't think it's so much an "act" but more he just exaggerates himself like a caricature. The same applies to Troopz IMO in the sense that I know plenty of people who say "blud" and "fam", but Troopz is the only person I've ever heard say it like 4 words out of 5 like that to the point where it's completely ludicrous so I assume that there is an original video where he was fuming and on a mad rant accidentally saying blud/fam more than he would've done normally, then it got a load of hits because it was funny, so now he plays up to that character and overdoes it.
 

EighteenEightyTwo

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I don't think it's so much an "act" but more he just exaggerates himself like a caricature. The same applies to Troopz IMO in the sense that I know plenty of people who say "blud" and "fam", but Troopz is the only person I've ever heard say it like 4 words out of 5 like that to the point where it's completely ludicrous so I assume that there is an original video where he was fuming and on a mad rant accidentally saying blud/fam more than he would've done normally, then it got a load of hits because it was funny, so now he plays up to that character and overdoes it.
Troopz turns it up to 11 in front of the camera but i'm fairly sure Ty is like that 24/7.
 
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