Streetspur77
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Off the top of my head, 11. However there may be more I've forgotten about
Player Watch: Marcus Edwards
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Off the top of my head, 11. However there may be more I've forgotten about
That wasn’t really the point. I said it was ironic,because Chelsea are perceived as never giving youth a chance. When infact I make it 5 academy players given debuts this season boga musonda Ampadu Hudson-Odoi Scott. It’s just a bit of a myth that Poch is some kind of Svengali with academy players. When in reality winks is the only one he has brought through that’s established themselves.
But my point was academy players.
Hengy1
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You said he’s known as a champion of youth players, I disagreed and said he’s known as champion of young players ie he’ll play young players from academy or bought in when he’s thinks they are ready.
Lilbaz
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The u21s train and play against the first team. Maybe they are just not good enough at the moment.
Poch is looking to win the league or the champions league. I'm sure that he will give players a go if they show that they are good enough to help in that.
Donki
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I think Conte is making a point by playing them. Footballing politics, he isn't happy with their transfer policy.
EQP
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Hmmm that's one for Poch. All i know is on his debut for us, KWP won man of the match and was solid throughout the whole game. KWP is also one of the hardest workers in training. With both those things going for him, he still can't get anymore minutes in the league or in his preferred position of RB.
Univarn
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Whenever this gets brought up I never understand if the argument being made is either 1) Poch is blind to the qualities of our academy players or 2) Poch is intentionally ignoring academy players in favor of senior purchases because of some unknown bias.
allpaths
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Look it, obviously Poch's methods are well validated. It's quite astoinishing the level he has us playing at. It's obvious Poch only has want is best for the club at heart.
But plain and simply it's not what is best for our academy boys. Right or wrong for the large marjority of academy lads they need a manager that is willing to put to some level faith in them that they will grow into top players. Now that's not throwing them blindly into the league, but it is going out of their way to get them minutes at the opportune time.
I've made peace that Poch is not that type of manager, but it won't stop me from being disappointed watching the likes of TOB, Edwards, Onomah and KWP mismanged.
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EQP
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Somehow, people have this concrete notion that Poch will, without fail, reward younger players who work hard in training and perform well when given the chance to play, with even more minutes of 1st team football. They bring up Winks and use his integration as the standard and then make claims that Onomah doesn't have the work rate or doesn't work hard enough to even get the opportunity to play as a CM in our team. But somehow those same people fail to mention that KWP does work hard in training and has performed well when played in his preferred position of RB and seemingly cannot get a start as RB or even minutes in a league. I'm really just confused ( as might KWP or Onomah migh be) because I was under the impression that if the younger players worked hard and focused, they would be rewarded with opportunities. Why does it feel as if that isn't the case anymore?
Lilbaz
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Does kwp out perform aurier and trippier in training?
Harry winks made his debut for us in 2014. That was the only appearance for us that season. The next season he made 2 appearances for us. The third he made 33 appearances. Kwp made his debut this season. He's made 5 appearances for us so far.
Football fans are too impatient.
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allpaths
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It's not impatience, we just want to see progress. And in football development is a two way street, the players and the coaches both have to equally give and take in the relationship. Currently niether are doing enough to get the most out of each other, which is slightly concerning. That's why it gets talked about, not out of impatience, but because some of us see an opportunity that maybe missed.
spursfan77
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With Poch, I think if kwp was outperforming those 2 in training then he’d be in the team. That’s part of his ethos.
Edwards obviously isn’t doing that at Norwich so isn’t getting in their team. If he can’t do it there at the moment he’s got no chance of doing it with us.
Spursmatty87
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It’s alright giving the odd game to a few players here and there, but I can’t see many of them being part of the 1st regularly. The fact that they signed 3 cm for £80m+ instead of giving lotus cheek a game shows what they are about. I’m sure if poch had the talent that Chelsea have we would see them in the team. Josh, ccv and Markus need to make the most of the loans.
Shadydan
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Let's see if these guys are going to be playing regularly in a year's time, I doubt it.
coysjod
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Cough, cough, Harry Kane, cough
Dundalk_Spur
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There is no point Poch playing youth for the sake of it. He plays them when he needs to and only if he believes they are ready and able to do the job required.
