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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

coys200

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However good toby has been for us. Say he wants a 5 year deal. There is every chance foyth could emerge next season as great,Dier slip back into CB role. In a years time we could end up with a 30 yr old injury prone 4th choice CB on £150k a week for another 4 years. I can totally see the doubts from the clubs point of view.
 

coy-spurs1882

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However good toby has been for us. Say he wants a 5 year deal. There is every chance foyth could emerge next season as great,Dier slip back into CB role. In a years time we could end up with a 30 yr old injury prone 4th choice CB on £150k a week for another 4 years. I can totally see the doubts from the clubs point of view.
he is not that injury prone mate, according to transfermarkt he was injured for 96 days this season and 45 days last season, injury-free in his first season
 

Frozen_Waffles

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Toby is the best defender in Europe. Sell him and we make ourselves weak and give up on the best team we have had in 50 years.

Good luck to Foyth but thinking he could be as good as Toby is the most optimistic thing I’ve heard. Let’s not delude ourselves.

I rate Toby as much as the next man, but he is not the best CB in Europe. I am not saying foyth will be as good but what options are there...

Give him anything he wants? No it would be silly from the club
Let his contract run out? Have a unmotivated player waiting to walk out of the club - no

I only suggest the best option if he should not sign a new contract
 

spursfan77

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Looool whenever there’s a story we don’t want to hear, the journo is accused of hating Spurs.

Not at all. His record of stories on us is awful. Every single one is negative. Have a look.

Ive no doubt there is problems with his contract. That much is obvious. But this guy is just jumping on the bandwagon.
 

Trix

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Haven’t missed him even though we take less points without him in the team.

Like I say the usual deflection from certain posters trying to justify it (y)

There is nothing to justify. If he wants to leave that badly he will leave. You say it sets a bad precedent, but the fact is its nothing new, and it's nothing different to how any of our rivals act to a player that want out. Contract length and squad harmony are the key factors. Not us looking weak, or setting "bad precedents."

Like I said it's all about the team and everyone pulling in the same direction. Not about keeping unhappy individuals.
 

Trix

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And yet we'd be stronger still if we kept hold of the best centre back in the league.

I don't really see how anyone can defend a policy of selling our best players, though I'm not surprised to see you do so.

Not if he doesn't want to be here, disrupts the harmony of the squad, and doesn't play to his best.
 

thebenjamin

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Whether they are justified or not, the club can’t afford the wage bill to shoot up by £100m suddenly. That’s just the plain truth at the moment. If Toby got £150k a week then a hell of a lot of players in the squad would want equal or significantly more.

If it’s true that the club is going to offer Kane £200k+ then that may change everything anyway. But Levy has some real work to do to balance the books.

We actually can afford for it to shoot up by exactly 100m, and that's what needs to happen.

We run wages at 50% of our turnover of 200 odd million, so 100. This season's is reported to be 300M, and next season should hit 400M, so we absolutely should be able to go to a £200m wage bill. If we don't, the team will break up and the manager will leave, really is that simple. Pochettino has said numerous times 'everything will be different' when the club moves to the new stadium and he is clearly expecting the club to be financially competitive. If we're not going to expand the wage bill to keep our best players, then what on earth is the point of building a new stadium? I guess making ENIC a lot of money, but I can't believe they would be that short-sighted.
 
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Hengy1

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There is nothing to justify. If he wants to leave that badly he will leave. You say it sets a bad precedent, but the fact is its nothing new, and it's nothing different to how any of our rivals act to a player that want out. Contract length and squad harmony are the key factors. Not us looking weak, or setting "bad precedents."

Like I said it's all about the team and everyone pulling in the same direction. Not about keeping unhappy individuals.
Let’s hope Kane, Eriksen keep pulling the levy way although I’d love to see the justification and deflections if they don’t
 

ThorntonSpur

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29, peak years as a centre back the next five. 150k for the next five years is a no brainer in my view. The only thing is the club may know something about his injury which on one else does. 80 million this summer or 25 next summer are the other options. we will not get an upgrade.
 

stevenurse

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There is nothing to justify. If he wants to leave that badly he will leave. You say it sets a bad precedent, but the fact is its nothing new, and it's nothing different to how any of our rivals act to a player that want out. Contract length and squad harmony are the key factors. Not us looking weak, or setting "bad precedents."

Like I said it's all about the team and everyone pulling in the same direction. Not about keeping unhappy individuals.

Are you saying he's unhappy currently? Doesn't seem to be and his social media/PR team aren't giving that impression, although I guess the more he seems committed, the more the uproar if we don't give him what he wants.

In fairness, to over double his wages, and heavily incentivise like many of the other contracts are, isn't a terrible deal. Yes he could earn more elsewhere but literally 95% of players could if they went to China etc.

He's settled, playing with his mates and with the best training facilities, possibly stadium in the country, with an ambitious squad. I think anyone would be mad to leave now but I guess I would say that!
 

coy-spurs1882

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i think it would be better for both parties to let him concentrate on his fitness and form for the remaining season and the coming world cup.
 

spursfan77

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Does sound like he's off to be honest. Just hope we get a good fee for him.

It does seem that way. Lets not forget that when he moved to us him and his agent well and truly screwed Southampton. So they are ruthless in getting what they want. I suspect its the same here.
 

rocklink

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There is no way anybody could justify selling toby. End of discussion ... I am sure within one or two years we will hear the same justification and logic for selling eriksen, dele, kane .. go and save this post ...
 

mark87

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It does seem that way. Lets not forget that when he moved to us him and his agent well and truly screwed Southampton. So they are ruthless in getting what they want. I suspect its the same here.

And I'm also praying he goes abroad. Will be so pissed if he stays in the premier league.
 

Trix

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Let’s hope Kane, Eriksen keep pulling the levy way although I’d love to see the justification and deflections if they don’t

You say there are some of us that just keep justifying decisions to sell unhappy players. I say there are others that just predict constant doom and gloom.

We do no different than any other club when it comes to players that want out, yet you make out Levy is the problem. Laughable really.
 
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