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Yeah, coz Gatland did nothing but moan at the ref after our game.
It was definitely the main focus of his post game comments. Even you can't deny that.
Yeah, coz Gatland did nothing but moan at the ref after our game.
It was definitely the main focus of his post game comments. Even you can't deny that.
Yeah, the TMO not how Garces reffed the game. In fact, I don’t think he mentioned Garces once.
Oh I see.
Splitting hairs that way are we
Well it’s a bit different isn’t it.
Gatland was talking about a single incident that wasn’t even the refs decision and you, and the majority of English fans, seem to be extremely unhappy at Owens’ entire performance.
We were talking about Jones.
The point is that Jones is taking responsibility. Gatland very rarely seems to and you can split hairs on what he's actually blaming but it's still the same point.
Okay mate
I don't see any difference no.
Gatland refuses to accept his team had been beaten by the better team. He blamed a decision.
Jones has accepted responsibility and said Scotland were better than us.
And only a Wales fan would say there were no issues to look at with the reffing yesterday. Maybe it's just because you weren't watching properly (which I think you've said) but you're only talking about the two try incidents for England whereas most people talking about it (not only English fans) are talking about the game in general where the way the breakdown was reffed was very odd.
But I'm glad Jones has (somewhat out of character) shown more class than Gatland did a couple of weeks back.
Just hope he can turn the team around as well.
Only English fans are complaining about Owens.
I’ll break down the differences mate.
1, it was the TMO not the ref.
2, Gats was talking about 1 incident but you lot on here have a list as long as your arm.
So other than the fact Gatland didn’t criticise the ref and other than the fact you’re talking about dozens of separate incidents, yeah, they’re exactly the same.
Oh, are Woodward and Greenwood Welsh, then? I must’ve missed that seeing as they said Nige had a great game.
The other difference being our game was a lot tighter so a lot more hinges on that 1 decision by the TMO whereas Scotland gave you a damn good seeing to but I guess you’ll just say but Nigel fucked is over about 200 times during the game.
You seem to be completely ignoring the point...I'm assuming on purpose.
Gatland didn't accept the better team won.
Jones did.
I would have been furious at the lack of players in the breakdown from my team, not the performance of the ref.English fans are complaining obviously because it effected them but seen lots of no. English people questioning the performance.
Irish and Welsh fans would have been furious off the back of that yesterday.
I think there have been a good number of English fans however who accept that it wasn't the reason we lost.
I would have been furious at the lack of players in the breakdown from my team, not the performance of the ref.
And you’re not accepting that the 2 situations are totally different.