Dele Alli - Player watch
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I think he dived in the incident with the Palace keeper. However, the Van Arnholt tackle was a clear penalty and doesn't suit the current agenda.
He has dived a couple of times and now the media has caused this hysteria about it and due to this, the officials are reluctant to award him a penalty. The tackle by Valencia on Alli in our recent game against Untied was one of the worst non-penalty calls I can recall.
I just hope when he scores his next goal, he celebrates like Jurgen used to do.
He has dived a couple of times and now the media has caused this hysteria about it and due to this, the officials are reluctant to award him a penalty. The tackle by Valencia on Alli in our recent game against Untied was one of the worst non-penalty calls I can recall.
I just hope when he scores his next goal, he celebrates like Jurgen used to do.
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Yeah diving is an ugly part of the game, but what annoys me even more is when a player clearly gets nowhere near the ball but will swears blind he got the ball. That’s as morally reprehensible in my eyes but it never gets brought up
Honestly I love that other fans hate Dele, and I think he likes being the pantomime villain. What really sticks in my craw is the ex pros in the media sticking the knife in from their ivory tower, with a jet stream of holier than thou bullshit spewing from their cretinous gobs whilst simultaneously forgetting their own disgresions as players. And then they wonder why the NT can’t take the pressure and bottle it against the likes of Iceland or Hogwarts at every major tournament
Honestly I love that other fans hate Dele, and I think he likes being the pantomime villain. What really sticks in my craw is the ex pros in the media sticking the knife in from their ivory tower, with a jet stream of holier than thou bullshit spewing from their cretinous gobs whilst simultaneously forgetting their own disgresions as players. And then they wonder why the NT can’t take the pressure and bottle it against the likes of Iceland or Hogwarts at every major tournament
stevenurse
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Yes he goes down easily and certainly isn't shy of looking for contact, but like Bale before, the media have reduced his likelihood of getting a penalty to minimal.
Clear penalties against West Ham, United and now Palace have all been waved away.
Vardy is the absolute master of the 'kick the ball away and fall over' penalty, but when he does it, its clever forward play.
There are a lot of things I'd want Alli to never change, but for the next 5/6 games I'd tell him as much as he can, because it will be instinct a lot of the time, to stay on his feet.
Refs shouldn't be hesitant as the retrospective bans will vindicate them if they are tricked, but unfortunately his reputation (and seemingly us as a club now) precedes him
Clear penalties against West Ham, United and now Palace have all been waved away.
Vardy is the absolute master of the 'kick the ball away and fall over' penalty, but when he does it, its clever forward play.
There are a lot of things I'd want Alli to never change, but for the next 5/6 games I'd tell him as much as he can, because it will be instinct a lot of the time, to stay on his feet.
Refs shouldn't be hesitant as the retrospective bans will vindicate them if they are tricked, but unfortunately his reputation (and seemingly us as a club now) precedes him
Difference is that Vardy and others allow themselves to get clattered rather than moving towards the fouler.
Lamela's penalty win against Liverpool was clever. Move yourself into a position where you will get fouled.
Dele doesn't. He goes down before he gets clattered, as if he's either trying to dive, or is scared to get clattered.
Had he not been going down already before he reached Henderson, it would have been a clear penalty.
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To paraphrase a F365 article this morning, he's effectively losing the benefit of the doubt now, and I'm afraid it's a problem of his own making. He's wasteful in the final third and sets himself to draw fouls. It's not how I like to see the game played, and it frustrates me. Sorry.
Neg rep away.
Neg rep away.
mark87
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Yeah it is his own fault, if he didn't go down so easily then yeah refs would think the times when he's fouled are legitimate.
However, the media witchhunt and every twat on twitter basically claiming him to dive at every opportunity also has a big part to play, now everyone is saying all our players dive, Kane is a diver and now apparently Davies is a diver even though neither have ever done it and because of this, we're now labelled a team of divers which is utter horseshit and it will go against us even more in the future now, despite us being denied more blantant penalties this season than penalties we've actually been awarded.
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Japhet
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As predicted, the pidgeons are coming home to roost now. Once you have the reputation it's extremely hard to shake it and it will cost us. It's become a habit for him and he needs to back himself enough to stay on his feet. As I've said before, if Messi fell over every time he expected contact, he wouldn't be a fraction of the player he has become. Dele's too good to keep trying to take the soft option at the slightest touch.
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A mate sent me a link to a Daily Mail article yesterday, the title of which was along the lines of ...DELE...CHEAT...AGAIN...CON...etc
Looked up the guy who wrote it and found his twitter...turns out he's a Spurs fan
Once again proving when you work for the Daily Hate you become void of any human morals.
Looked up the guy who wrote it and found his twitter...turns out he's a Spurs fan
Once again proving when you work for the Daily Hate you become void of any human morals.
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Huddersfield was pretty bad too in fairness
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He does need to stop going down before the contact. He needs to be more cute. If he planted his foot yesterday then Hennessy takes him out legitimately and it's a pen. That said, it should have been a penalty against van Aanholt and it wasn't given. Just as it wasn't given against United a few weeks back.
The dive against Liverpool was poor. He though contact was coming and there was none. That's stupid, just like Monreal yesterday (though nothing said by anyone about that). I have much less of a problem about the "dive" from yesterday, he knows he's about to be taken out, and almost every players does what he did, and it never gets mentioned. He goes down early, but it's still a foul.
The dive against Liverpool was poor. He though contact was coming and there was none. That's stupid, just like Monreal yesterday (though nothing said by anyone about that). I have much less of a problem about the "dive" from yesterday, he knows he's about to be taken out, and almost every players does what he did, and it never gets mentioned. He goes down early, but it's still a foul.
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He didn’t dive at all yesterday for me. Just because you fall over in the area doesn’t mean it’s a foul or a dive. Sometimes there are just collisions. The media don’t want to cover that because it doesn’t provoke controversy or clicks. It’s pathetic.
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If anyone's till got the game or MOTD recorded if you watch one of the replays of the goal you can hear Dele scream YAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS at it goes in 
Yid.
Yid.
SirNiNyHotspur
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The most blatant dive I seen yesterday...
Monreal, the muppet after realizing what he done and the fact that there was VAR started saying it wasn't a penalty in case he got to be made to look even more of a idiot. VAR will stamp out diving... and give us 3 of the penalties we should have had yesterday.
Monreal, the muppet after realizing what he done and the fact that there was VAR started saying it wasn't a penalty in case he got to be made to look even more of a idiot. VAR will stamp out diving... and give us 3 of the penalties we should have had yesterday.
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At least Alli never deliberately kicked someone in the face, eh...
Saw Ref Watch on SSN earlier talking about that incident (didn't bother to mention the two - three according to Souness - penalties we should have been given) and actually it reminded me a lot of the penalty Chelsea were given in the semi final last season. In both cases a player goes to ground to try and intercept the ball, and the attackers - Moses and Alli - expect there to be contact and go to ground. Neither should have been a penalty, although there was at least contact between Hennessey and Alli, Moses just flew through the air.
Compare the media reactions to both incidents. Shearer was doing that game, and the final where Moses was sent off for diving, and MotD2 last night. He was adamant that the penalty against Son was correctly awarded because Son shouldn't go to ground like that and doing so vindicates Moses diving, yet he called him a cheat for doing the same thing in the final v Arsenal. When Alli does it he's a cheat. Make your mind up.
Seem to recall the only pundit calling out Moses for diving in the semi final was Waddle. The reaction from the rest of the media was almost unanimous in blaming Son and calling it a penalty. Yet now they all line up to call Alli a cheat. But there's definitely no kind of agenda or lemming mentality among pundits.
From a 2015 article about Jose defending Cesc from Shearer diving claim:
But Shearer was yellow-carded for simulation, after he dived to try to win a free-kick, in his last England appearance, at Euro 2000 in the 3-2 defeat by Romania.
When it was pointed out to Mourinho that Shearer had been booked he said: "And for elbows, no?"
That was a reference to other incidents involving Shearer, including another one in 2000 when he was accused of deliberately breaking Malta defender Darren Debono's nose with an elbow.
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