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Saoirse

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Even if I managed to buy in the same area as my seat at Wembley, my ticket goes up from £675 to £975, just ridiculous.
Mine's just gone completely since I'm upper tier at Wembley on the halfway line. Costs £795, but the back row of the upper tier at NWHL is more like the middle tier of Wembley and costs £1500. Now that wasn't really the seat I wanted to begin with, I'd much rather be making some noise behind the goal, but I'll have to pay a £200 premium for that even if I can get an ST there (which is unlikely).
 

punky

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No point in complaining to the club. The prices won't change and quite obviously don't care with considering how they liaised with THST.

They've priced me out of being a Spurs fan. I've been Levy's biggest supporter on here but fuck him for signing off on this.
 

LukaMotion

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Also, 1882 club seats, is this not just a bit of a ploy by the club to get a few extra "corporate" seats into the otherwise GA/season ticket areas, at least in terms of the price. Give them their own bar and charge them an extra grand to make a bit more money while losing about 3 blocks worth of seating in the area of the ground previously reserved for the cheapest seats...
 

Dougal

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My equivalent has gone from £775 to around £1200

What’s everyone else’s?
Similar for me. I expected it to be like this though. I’d only be surprised today if I found out it was going to be affordable. After 19 years as a season ticket holder I just wanted one season in the new ground before calling it a day. Now I’ll have to decide if I get that.
 

Bruts

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Also, 1882 club seats, is this not just a bit of a ploy by the club to get a few extra "corporate" seats into the otherwise GA/season ticket areas, at least in terms of the price. Give them their own bar and charge them an extra grand to make a bit more money while losing about 3 blocks worth of seating in the area of the ground previously reserved for the cheapest seats...

Ah but you get your name up on a wall o_O

Must say I am very surprised at these prices but oh well, will give it one season and see how it goes.
 

punky

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Are we going to see which seats are sold in real time? I'm looking to buy as a group but we can't plan which seats to buy if they are all going to be sold out.
 

Dzejkob

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I dont live in London so this dont really concern me, but I hope this prices won't hurt the atmosphere at games. WHL was one of the best in England in that aspect. The club ensured that they would do everything to keep that at new ground. And I really belive them looking at what we are building. But without true fans it's all worth nothing. Or maybe I'm overreacting...
 

Saoirse

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No point in complaining to the club. The prices won't change and quite obviously don't care with considering how they liaised with THST.

They've priced me out of being a Spurs fan. I've been Levy's biggest supporter on here but fuck him for signing off on this.
Here's my prediction. Normally the "churn rate" - people not renewing each year - was about 500 at WHL. With all the new ST holders you'd expect around 1,000. There's obviously excitement for our new home, but I think this will be slightly higher than that regardless - maybe 1,500 or so because of the pricing.

The club will regard that as a success since they'll manage to fill that from the waiting list. And for the first few months everything will go well for them. The media types will love the stadium, it will be full every match, it'll be labelled a success.

If ENIC have any sense they'll be trying to sell up during that time and I do wonder if that's the plan. Because what will very quickly happen is that our ST holders will be a bit disappointed with the atmosphere. The "wall of noise" will just be the lower part of the south stand because directly above them are seats which are too expensive and even including some semi-corporate packages. The views will be fantastic, but the novelty will wear off and people will wonder if it's worth the money. Obviously though most will still want to keep their ST to get to the big games and get cup final tickets.

What will happen, though, is that we'll be home to the Wolverhampton Wanderers at 8pm on a Tuesday night, and the ticket exchange will be flooded. And that won't just be the midweek games - soon people will start trying to sell all the category B and C fixtures, probably succeeding half the time and re-couping a significant portion of the outrageous price.

What happens, though, when maybe the team is going through a bad spell, most members and interested fans have already been a few times, matchday tickets are £45 for a category C and half our season ticket holders would much rather cash in than go to the match?

Ask the nomads over in Islington exactly what happens when you do that. A navy sea of empty seats is what happens when you do that.

Live football these days needs a unique selling point. The views are fantastic, but so is the view and the angles presented by a host of 4K Sky Sports cameras. It needs to be an experience. The club clearly wants that to be through the marketplace, the pre and post-match entertainment, the day out. But for most people that will not be worth paying to go 25 times a year - let alone the domestic cup matches. After all, it's no different to the experience you'd get in a bar, which has an entry fee of £0, drinks probably at the same price as in the stadium, and again just as good a view.

The selling point you can't replicate anywhere else? The atmosphere. And if you've only got a few thousand atmospheric seats at affordable-ish prices which will inevitably go to those already most dedicated to the club anyway, you're screwed. Maybe not this year, maybe if you're lucky not even in three years or five years, but you're screwed. It's a matter of a time. And the worst part is we're watching that lot down the road go through that as we speak, getting worse and worse each week, and yet we make the exact same mistakes.
 

Dougal

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Taking it just beyond the reach of the pay packet leaves a lot of pressure on success on the pitch. Nearly 30,000 extra fans will have to be going regularly. That’s a lot of new people who will have to plan their lives around going so often. Been doing it for a long time and it’s not easy. My big worry is this team breaking up/Poch being tempted away. People are joining during what is a relatively good time for the club, a peak. But there will be troughs.
 

JollyHappy

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Even if I managed to buy in the same area as my seat at Wembley, my ticket goes up from £675 to £975, just ridiculous.

But what would the price have been at Old White Hart Lane?

From a quick look I think that prices for "equivalent" seats are up about £150 and no cup games included
 

Saoirse

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Third thing to occur: They've given literally a block and a half away at £80 less than anywhere else in the stadium, no doubt so they can bang on about how the cheapest tickets are hardly any more expensive than they were at WHL. Do one.

Well, some of our beloved media have succeeded in falling for that one hook, line and sinker already.

Evening Standard: "The cheapest ticket at their new stadium, built on the old White Hart Lane site, will set fans back £795 - just £30 more than the cheapest seat at the Lane."

Surprisingly though the Daily Mail have been the first to conduct something approaching journalism:

"These prices make Tottenham's the most expensive season tickets in the Premier League, should the prices for the 2017-18 campaign be continued by all clubs next year... The price is a significant hike on Tottenham's prices for this current season at Wembley, where the cheapest season tickets were available for £645, according to the BBC's Price of Football survey."
 

Saoirse

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Another little caveat from their announcement in the ticket exchange section - "Season Ticket Holders will receive the full face value of the match ticket in the event it sells."

On the surface that sounds good and fair. It's interesting to note, though, that it's different to their policy this season where you got 1/19th of the ST price whether you were selling Category A or C tickets.

Why the change? Well, this year it's been very hard to sell Cat B or C tickets because we've seldom sold out. So most of the ticket exchange transactions will have been on Cat A tickets, meaning most selling fans got less than face value back while buying fans were charged face value (not 1/19th) plus £7.50.

Next year, with 25,000 fewer seats, you'll be able to sell the vast majority of seats on the ticket exchange. Obviously though people want to go to the Cat A games rather than sell them, so most of the transactions will be on Cat B or C tickets. So if we'd maintained the policy, ST holders would've got quite a good deal in that respect. Of course we couldn't be having that.

They're changing the system in minute detail year on year to fleece fans for every pound possible. And frankly the whole thing stinks.
 

manic041

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Sales Phase

1 - Tenure of 11 years (or more) and holding 310 or more Loyalty Points
2 - Tenure of 11 years (or more) and holding 200 - 309 Loyalty Points
3 - Tenure of 11 years (or more) and holding 0 - 199 Loyalty Points
4 - Tenure of 1 - 10 years
5 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 1 - 10,000 at the end of the 2016/17 season
6 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 10,001 – 25,000 at the end of the 2016/17 season
7 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 25,001 – 43,999 at the end of the 2016/17 season
8 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 44,000 – 66,050 at the end of the 2016/17 season
 

Archibald Leitch

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Got my first ST this year and I am in line with the edge of the penalty area in tier 5, price £745. Equivalent at the back of the top tier at NWHL, £1325. Not happening. Simples.
 

THFCSPURS19

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On a personal note, I'm gonna be able to get the Young Adult prices for a couple of years, which is quite cool. But because I've only had it for a season, I'm not confident I'll be able to get a seat in the South Stand. At least I was high up in the Waiting List, so will have a decent choice.
 
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