spursfan77
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I hadn't even thought of that. They will have to do something to prevent a wembley style embarrassment at half time. That would be wholly unacceptable.
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I hadn't even thought of that. They will have to do something to prevent a wembley style embarrassment at half time. That would be wholly unacceptable.
davidmatzdorf
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- Jun 7, 2004
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Yes there is. Two excuses:
We haven't finished the development yet. The residential/hotel scheme needs to be completed and sold off and the state of the residential market when that happens is not yet clear.
Once that has been done, we have to refinance the residual stadium development debt, after any profits on the residential scheme have been offset against it, and the state of the borrowing market when that happens is not yet clear.
Match ticket turnover is not the major factor.
nightgoat
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- Sep 12, 2005
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I dunno, people bought tickets in the 'home end' blocks at Wembley this season and spent entire games shouting at people to sit down. Some next to where my seat was originally tried to claim the club never even advised those who wanted to contribute to the atmosphere to buy in certain blocks.
thebenjamin
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- Jul 1, 2008
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They're not going to be able to do anything. Companies have paid huge sums for those facilities and they aren't going to throw them out 5 minutes before the second half starts. For anything other than the games against the top 6, I'd imagine a majority of their guests would rather stay drinking montrachet in the warmth of a michelin star restaurant, than sit outside watching Spurs labour to a 1-0 against Stoke.
It's only just dawning on me now how badly they've fucked this up. It's really sad. On top of all the phasing stuff, refusing to move blocks together, the 1882 bollocks... this is exactly what I thought it would be when ENIC built a stadium, but I got seduced by the whole 'atmosphere' 'character' 'iconic home end' bollocks. But truly this is a venue for corporate hospitality with some fans cast as extras to make the corporate experience more entertaining.
SpursDave88
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- Aug 31, 2012
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Too true. I think this was even worse last year for the CL games where everyone was mixed together.
I've had a season ticket since 2000 so 18 years....I'm in phase 3...that cannot be right!
N17TJK
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It’s clear that the project isn’t finished and needs to be sold off once it is, everyone gets that.
But you can’t tell me that with this extortionate pricing and the amount of corporate tickets being sold in a 62,000 seater stadium that we couldn’t afford a mass uplift in wages aswell as paying off loans etc.. Giving 5 players an extra 100,000 a week (which is extreme) amounts to 26,000,000 a year.
If we are talking about waiting until the matters you have listed are taken care of, (let’s say 4-5 years away) we will be left so far behind our rivals in terms of wages we won’t have a team finishing anywhere near the top 4 let alone challenging for the title.
Unless something like a wage cap is brought in or the TV deal bubble bursts (which I doubt it ever will) then you would be foolish to think that in 4-5 years time average players at your clubs like West Ham and Crystal Palace won’t be signing 4-5 year deals at 150k+ per week.
bomberH
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I’ve had one since 1980 and I’m in phase 3 too. When they cut loads of loyalty points off everyone a few years back, I seemed to have suffered more than any of the group I go with, probably cos I stopped going away games. I have less than 200 loyalty points now and it’s all a bit shit. Still hoping to get the seats we want but it’s in the south lower so 10k people will have first dibs before us.
neilp
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Yes but probably half of those 10,000 won’t want to be in the south stand.
bomberH
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That’s what I’m hoping but it’s the place to be and it’s the cheapest so I’m not sure. Here’s hoping...
EmperorKabir
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I reckon things won't be as bad as people think.
Let's assume the following argument based on what people are saying in this thread in general:
-richer fans don't make noise
-richer fans are the ones who can afford to go to more away games
-richer fans therefore have more loyalty points
-richer fans are in earlier sales phases as a result
(argument kinda already fails given how our away support is pretty decent so if they have the money for expensive away trips after factoring in travel etc, then a richer fan CAN make noise).
So this will mean richer fans will go for pricier seats in the early sales phases, keeping more of the kop open for 'poorer' fans.
OR
the argument is inaccurate and a lot of those richer yet still noisy fans will be in early sales phases, buy kop seats and yet still make a load of noise keeping the atmosphere solid.
either way, it's a win win for our fanbase as a whole.
(Obviously might still be a loss on an individual level if no decent cheap seats left in mid and late sales phases).
The reality will be somewhere between the 2 as everyone is a mix of different money and atmosphere contribution. So the end result will be that there should be 'some' decent seats available for people in sales 4 and 5. Beyond that might be a bit tricky. I can't see issues with phases 1-3 really, especially if you are quick off the mark in 3. Only 10k seats will be gone by the end of 2 out of 42k, but with the whole stadium to choose from minus 5kish corporate. a good 40k + of availability for people in 3 and even 35ish for people in 4... it's just not going to be a big problem I don't think.
rugga
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Any idea how many seats are planned to be left over on sale for members match by match? Some of our group are going to be priced out and thinking of reverting back to membership and go as and when they can by buying during each sale window or find tickets on the exchange or via ticket share.
I can't see any freezes coming in anytime soon, so the second season at the new stadium isn't going to have many ST's under £1k anywhere. Hardly sustainable for a number of fans I'm sure. A price rise was inevitable with the new offering but just hoping it does not affect attendances/atmosphere! Time will tell.
I can't see any freezes coming in anytime soon, so the second season at the new stadium isn't going to have many ST's under £1k anywhere. Hardly sustainable for a number of fans I'm sure. A price rise was inevitable with the new offering but just hoping it does not affect attendances/atmosphere! Time will tell.
ILS
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6,000 for members per game, so I will be looking forward to our midweek games against Bournemouth and the likes to get an opportunity of going.
southlondonyiddo
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As has been said they have made the more expensive seats
Deep down a lot of us knew this would happen
The 17,000 single tier Kop seduction was always Levy’s way of having a smooth transition into his soulless concrete corporate bowl
I always wanted us to redevelop WHL fearing that anything new would just be a corporate exercise
I shut up about redevelopment once the new stadium was signed off and I even romantically hoped that Tottenham would try and build the new stadium with US in mind
In truth they live in another world and soon a little bit of it is coming our way
As I have said before Levy really had a great opportunity to set us apart from the scum & chelski in regards to creating a special place for SUPPORTERS
Unfortunately he’s created a 4 star hotel with a bunch of guys playing football outside
Deep down a lot of us knew this would happen
The 17,000 single tier Kop seduction was always Levy’s way of having a smooth transition into his soulless concrete corporate bowl
I always wanted us to redevelop WHL fearing that anything new would just be a corporate exercise
I shut up about redevelopment once the new stadium was signed off and I even romantically hoped that Tottenham would try and build the new stadium with US in mind
In truth they live in another world and soon a little bit of it is coming our way
As I have said before Levy really had a great opportunity to set us apart from the scum & chelski in regards to creating a special place for SUPPORTERS
Unfortunately he’s created a 4 star hotel with a bunch of guys playing football outside
There will always be plenty for sale via the ticket transfer system the club is going to use I would imagine.
spursfan77
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Ticket office solved my phasing problem with relative ease. They've been so much more helpful than I expected so hats off to them seems so far they are coping well. Although obviously I wont know until its an actual success until I try and get the tickets on the 26th March.
Think I'll celebrate getting them by buying some 1882 tickets then getting shitfaced in the bar all game and watching the match on the tvs in there...
Think I'll celebrate getting them by buying some 1882 tickets then getting shitfaced in the bar all game and watching the match on the tvs in there...
TottenhamMattSpur
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To all of those complaining about the price of the tickets being too much - where do you draw the line?
I couldn't afford match tickets through most of my 20's let alone even the cheapest season tickets that were available.
To me, someone with a £500 season ticket was far better off than me. Does that mean I looked at them like they were toffs and I was the real fan being denied a season ticket by people who weren't real fans?
F off!
There's always people better off and worse off than you are. Think yourselves lucky that;
A) You're actually invited to buy a season ticket and that there's 50k others that want one but can't and
B) You can afford a ticket, somewhere in the stadium
I couldn't afford match tickets through most of my 20's let alone even the cheapest season tickets that were available.
To me, someone with a £500 season ticket was far better off than me. Does that mean I looked at them like they were toffs and I was the real fan being denied a season ticket by people who weren't real fans?
F off!
There's always people better off and worse off than you are. Think yourselves lucky that;
A) You're actually invited to buy a season ticket and that there's 50k others that want one but can't and
B) You can afford a ticket, somewhere in the stadium
MyNameIsNicolaBerti
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Well, hang on a minute. I have a huge mortgage and bills. I am self employed. I have to have a budget. I have spent the past year budgeting for this season ticket based on what I paid at Wembley (since I figured that was most likely a guide for what we would pay in the new stadium) and now I have to pay 30% or more extra? That's 4-5 electricity bills right there.
I don't know what you do for a living, but personally I had a lot more disposable income in my 20s than I do now at 40.
In other words, everyone's circumstances are different. I've waited years and years to have a season ticket and swallowed Wembley to finally get one. Now I am in a situation where I don't know if I will be able to get one in my budget range because of my other commitments. How can not see how frustrating that is? A year at Wembley just to go back on the waiting list (especially considering I live 30 mins from WHL and an hour from Wembley)?
