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tony0379

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coys200

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The roof design is really unusual. Not sure I’ve seen one that adds so much vertical height. Most are just plonked on top. Ours sort of goes up more then out.
 

Roynie

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The roof design is really unusual. Not sure I’ve seen one that adds so much vertical height. Most are just plonked on top. Ours sort of goes up more then out.

I wonder if the club is looking to collect the rain water and filter it for use in the brewery and around the stadium in various ways. It would certainly reduce costs! It may also partially explain the design of the roof. This may well have been mentioned elsewhere but I haven't seen it so apologies if it has.
 

Rocksuperstar

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The roof design is really unusual. Not sure I’ve seen one that adds so much vertical height. Most are just plonked on top. Ours sort of goes up more then out.

If it's similar to the video posted a few pages back, they raise them to a certain height, then tip then inward, so the angle is more even with the long leg raised up.

It was this video, but i can't find the post it was in - credit to whoever dug it out, but I can't seem to find you, soz



Go to about 2:10 and watch from there.
 

Lilbaz

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If it's similar to the video posted a few pages back, they raise them to a certain height, then tip then inward, so the angle is more even with the long leg raised up.

It was this video, but i can't find the post it was in - credit to whoever dug it out, but I can't seem to find you, soz



Go to about 2:10 and watch from there.


Think eVil posted it in the roof thread. Doubt he'd mind.
 

Phischy

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If it's similar to the video posted a few pages back, they raise them to a certain height, then tip then inward, so the angle is more even with the long leg raised up.

It was this video, but i can't find the post it was in - credit to whoever dug it out, but I can't seem to find you, soz



Go to about 2:10 and watch from there.

This is true, also, I think people are looking at the roof structure thinking the bottom of the framework will be in line with the top of the stadium, with the roof pitched up from there. That's not accurate. The camber of the roof is relatively small, the framework actually 'hangs down' underneath it. I don't know the exact engineering involved, but when you look at internal pictures, you can see all the framework under the roof with things like the floodlights and even the skylounge/bridge over the north stand contained within it.
 

coys200

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This is true, also, I think people are looking at the roof structure thinking the bottom of the framework will be in line with the top of the stadium, with the roof pitched up from there. That's not accurate. The camber of the roof is relatively small, the framework actually 'hangs down' underneath it. I don't know the exact engineering involved, but when you look at internal pictures, you can see all the framework under the roof with things like the floodlights and even the skylounge/bridge over the north stand contained within it.

Yeah I’m still slightly confused how this works. Thought initially the framework was lifted then sat almost like a crown on top but don’t think that’s correct.
 

coys200

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Yeah I’m still slightly confused how this works. Thought initially the framework was lifted then sat almost like a crown on top but don’t think that’s correct.

Oh watching that video I was kind of right. Except the arms sort of bend in a bit, but it’s still basically like a crown that sits on top.
 

Phischy

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This is clearest image. View attachment 36632
We might be talking cross purposes here, so sorry if I have misunderstood you, but from what I can gather I still don't think you've got it.

All of the framework hangs in the middle of the bowl with taught metal cables attaching to the ring. If you think about anything which hangs, it can't hang higher than the thing (in this case ring) to which it is attached. (This is a gross oversimplification, but bear with me). So what is happening is the various cables are all gradually being tightened to lift the central structure up evenly in the middle of the stadium bowl. When that is finished the cables will all be taught and level with the metal structure hanging inside it. The roof is then put on top of that. So it's not a crown on top of the roof, it is the structure which firstly gives the roof its shape and secondly allows other structure to be placed under the roof.

This picture:
New-Spurs-stadium-Internal-Bowl.jpg


And this one:
NewTottenhamStadium2602.jpg


Best illustrate what the underside and top of the roof will look like and reflect the roof's almost flat nature.
 

Tiffers

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I thought that once the roof assembly had bee raised to the appropriate level the bottom of the support legs would be winched back to the main ring beam and secured.
 

Lilbaz

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The center ring of the roof will be higher than the outside. The roof goes upwards towards the middle.

If that helps.
 

coys200

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We might be talking cross purposes here, so sorry if I have misunderstood you, but from what I can gather I still don't think you've got it.

All of the framework hangs in the middle of the bowl with taught metal cables attaching to the ring. If you think about anything which hangs, it can't hang higher than the thing (in this case ring) to which it is attached. (This is a gross oversimplification, but bear with me). So what is happening is the various cables are all gradually being tightened to lift the central structure up evenly in the middle of the stadium bowl. When that is finished the cables will all be taught and level with the metal structure hanging inside it. The roof is then put on top of that. So it's not a crown on top of the roof, it is the structure which firstly gives the roof its shape and secondly allows other structure to be placed under the roof.

This picture:
New-Spurs-stadium-Internal-Bowl.jpg


And this one:
NewTottenhamStadium2602.jpg


Best illustrate what the underside and top of the roof will look like and reflect the roof's almost flat nature.

So phischy you’re disputing the photo I posted? Surly the top one you posted is exactly the same ?
 

Hengy1

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So phischy you’re disputing the photo I posted? Surly the top one you posted is exactly the same ?
Your pic has the framework attached to top of the stand where ours it’s not it’s suspended in the air over the pitch sidelines.
 
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Phischy

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The center ring of the roof will be higher than the outside. The roof goes upwards towards the middle.

If that helps.
Indeed, I was generalising when I said it was largely flat (I mentioned that in the brackets that it was a gross simplification), but quite a few people are talking about a part of the roof being almost vertical, which simply isn't true. The roof has a small camber and there is a frame underneath.
 

Phischy

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So phischy you’re disputing the photo I posted? Surly the top one you posted is exactly the same ?
The photo you have posted is from a different stadium and from a lower perspective before the frame work has been angled appropriately to receive the roof, which also appears to be rather different in nature as it looks like it's not catridges in the same way. What I am saying is there isn't a 'crown' which suggests framework on top, there isn't a 'vertical roof' as some people have suggested, because the roof is only lightly angled, there is a frame support structure underneath.

Wembley doesn't use the same approach, but it does have a rood supported by tension cables and frame work, so at the next match sit and check out the structure there. It isn't a million miles away from what we will have, ours will just be circular (oval) rather than running along the length of the roof.
 
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