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Guntz

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Lewis Cook was the inferior part of a cm2 with Onomah last summer..... How things change :unsure:

Just shows what regular football can do.

I have no doubt Josh has the higher ceiling as a player, but just isn't getting game time at Prem level.
 

spursfan77

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Southgate's plans really coming together bringing 4 new players into the squad with hardly any games left before the World Cup. Anyone would think he doesn't know who to pick to go on the plane!
 

nailsy

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Southgate's plans really coming together bringing 4 new players into the squad with hardly any games left before the World Cup. Anyone would think he doesn't know who to pick to go on the plane!

He gives new players a chance he doesn't know what his squad is. He makes no changes he gets accused of favouritism and not picking players on merit.
 

spursfan77

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He gives new players a chance he doesn't know what his squad is. He makes no changes he gets accused of favouritism and not picking players on merit.

The life of the England manager. Can’t ever win with his decisions. It has always been thus
 

guy

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Put this in the russia thread, will put here too:

Any clues to what the England side will look like? The squad for these friendlies is woeful.

Pickford
Walker Cahill mawson rose
Henderson Dier
Sterling Alli Rashford
Kane

Only 2 centre backs and a good CM away from a decent side I suppose

Discuss
 

nailsy

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Put this in the russia thread, will put here too:

Any clues to what the England side will look like? The squad for these friendlies is woeful.

Pickford
Walker Cahill mawson rose
Henderson Dier
Sterling Alli Rashford
Kane

Only 2 centre backs and a good CM away from a decent side I suppose

Discuss

Cahill's been dropped so it looks like his place is in danger, Mawson is probably behind Stones, Maguire, Smalling and Jones. Wilshere/Lallana would be better in the middle instead of Henderson. The front four looks pretty good.
 

rabbikeane

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If he hasn't changed his mind again then Southgate intend to play with a back trio and wing backs. Was a reason why he went with Gomez last time around, Mawson make sense too, Tarkowski not so much.
 

nailsy

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If he hasn't changed his mind again then Southgate intend to play with a back trio and wing backs. Was a reason why he went with Gomez last time around, Mawson make sense too, Tarkowski not so much.

Has Gomez been out injured recently? It looks like he's only played in two games since the end of January.
 

wirE

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Real lack of quality in the LB position, the best on current form is probably Ashley Young.

Or Milner imo. Done well for Liverpool in that postition last season but his lack of pace and age have maybe taken it toll on him..
 

nuttynoah

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Based on current form persona non grata Shelvey should be in the squad, if not starting in these friendlies.
I'd like to see him and Winks in the centre for England in Russia but I doubt either of them to go.
 

WiganSpur

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Encouraging that Southgate sees Dier as a centre half.

I just hope that he ditches the back three unless we are up against top opposition. I think we are more suited to 4-3-3 with Dier and Stones as centre backs.
 

'O Zio

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Encouraging that Southgate sees Dier as a centre half.

I just hope that he ditches the back three unless we are up against top opposition. I think we are more suited to 4-3-3 with Dier and Stones as centre backs.

I'm in two minds about it to be honest. On the one hand, CB is one of our weakest positions and we have no depth there at all so a formation that requires 3 of them seems counter-productive. Then again, if we're going to play Walker and Rose they're both at their best when there's a back 3. I suppose ultimately it's a question of whether the boost to our wingbacks performance outweighs taking up 3 places in the lineup with our weakest position.
 

DJS

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Will be good if Rose can get some game time, might help get him match fit quicker and maybe find some form.
 

DanielCHillier

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I'm in two minds about it to be honest. On the one hand, CB is one of our weakest positions and we have no depth there at all so a formation that requires 3 of them seems counter-productive. Then again, if we're going to play Walker and Rose they're both at their best when there's a back 3. I suppose ultimately it's a question of whether the boost to our wingbacks performance outweighs taking up 3 places in the lineup with our weakest position.
I'd say we're not in bad shape in defence, it's the central midfield position where we're incredibly weak, proven by the fact that our starting 2 there are Wilshire and Henderson.
 
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