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Player Watch: Erik Lamela

piedpiper

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Eriksen on Lamela's goal.

It was with his right foot as well! He normally doesn’t use his right foot for anything but standing on.

Even our own players know this... Yet ive seen posters vilified for alluding to this.
 

Streetspur77

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Oh please! You have been repeating for a while now how Lamela is about to find himself being fifth option behind Lucas... some nerve you have to call other posters delusional.

Explain why that is ridiculous to suggest

It's not even a slight on Lamela, just testament to that fact we have 3 World class attacking mids in front of him and then one, moura, who has got 1 goal and 3 assists for us in 1 month despite having barely played football for a year. And it's my view that once he gets fully up to speed he'll move ahead of Lamela.

That view is in no way comparable to 20 odd people believing Lamela is comparable to Modric
 

ohtottenham!

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Explain why that is ridiculous to suggest

It's not even a slight on Lamela, just testament to that fact we have 3 World class attacking mids in front of him and then one, moura, who has got 1 goal and 3 assists for us in 1 month despite having barely played football for a year. And it's my view that once he gets fully up to speed he'll move ahead of Lamela.

That view is in no way comparable to 20 odd people believing Lamela is comparable to Modric

Had Lamela been fit throughout the season, we'd have seen a lot more of him. Just like any player in that situation, he'd have had more game time, and more match sharpness. He's doing really well right now, as are all our attacking mids.

Great to see the value of a squad in operation, and a coach that can understand the different qualities that different players can bring when they're needed.

20 odd people believing Lamela is comparable to Modric? Are you exaggerating, overgeneralizing? Are they all saying he's as good as Modric? I doubt it. But it's natural for fans to compare certain aspects of a player's game to another's, especially if they've played for the same club.
 
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piedpiper

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Just love the options we have now with all our forwards. Different tools to unlock different defences. It's a squad game.

Had to check which thread i was in... Unusual to see a balanced view. Yes it is about the squad and whilst im not a fan of Lamela i appreciate that he has a role like all our attacking players.

We can become a little sterile when all Poch has is Kane, Dele,Eriksen and Son. Moura and Lamela in that equation just makes us less predictable.
 

ohtottenham!

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Had to check which thread i was in... Unusual to see a balanced view. Yes it is about the squad and whilst im not a fan of Lamela i appreciate that he has a role like all our attacking players.

We can become a little sterile when all Poch has is Kane, Dele,Eriksen and Son. Moura and Lamela in that equation just makes us less predictable.
So, honest question, you've said you're not a fan, fair enough, so what role do you think he has?
 

jezz

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Explain why that is ridiculous to suggest

It's not even a slight on Lamela, just testament to that fact we have 3 World class attacking mids in front of him and then one, moura, who has got 1 goal and 3 assists for us in 1 month despite having barely played football for a year. And it's my view that once he gets fully up to speed he'll move ahead of Lamela.

That view is in no way comparable to 20 odd people believing Lamela is comparable to Modric
In your view ( opinion ) here's the thing everybody's got an opinion and not everybody agrees with yours.
I've read loads of opinions exactly like yours over Lamelas time with us.
X will over take him when fit and Lamela will regulated to the bench, they got it wrong 99% of the time.
When Lamela is fit and up to speed Poch picks him in the starting eleven most of the time.
Moura looks a good player and I'm happy he's here to challenge for one of the attacking berths but in my opinion if Lamela keeps up yesterday's form he'll be starting a lot more than you think.
 

Streetspur77

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When Lamela is fit and up to speed Poch picks him in the starting eleven most of the time.

I mean that's just false.

You're saying if son, eriksen and Alli are all fit and on form Lamela gets in in front of one of them most of the time?
 

ralvy

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Explain why that is ridiculous to suggest

It's not even a slight on Lamela, just testament to that fact we have 3 World class attacking mids in front of him and then one, moura, who has got 1 goal and 3 assists for us in 1 month despite having barely played football for a year. And it's my view that once he gets fully up to speed he'll move ahead of Lamela.

That view is in no way comparable to 20 odd people believing Lamela is comparable to Modric

Not only it's a ridiculous statement, you're also being clearly dishonest about saying you don't mean it as a slight on Lamela.

I mean, you're saying that the only reason Moura isn't ahead of Lamela in the pecking order right now is because he's still not up to speed after not playing that much in the past season. Are you forgetting that Lamela was out more than a year due to chronic injuries, and he only started training with the first team about, what, two/three months before we signed Moura? At least during the period Lucas wasn't playing that much, he was still fit and training with the first team.

So clearly, lack of rythm is a very poor argument for you to use regarding why Lamela is starting more games and influencing more the games they've been playing. A better one might be that he still hasn't developed much chemistry with his new teammates, but it's uncertain if that will happen and, even if it doesn, it might not be as strong as what Lamela has developed with his teammates over the years.

Now, why do I say that you're being dishonest when you say you don't use the squad position argument as a dig on Lamela? Well, becuase you clearly have been using it as an argument against fans who have been praising Lamela in some degree, and you have been doing it even when those posters werent even claming that Lamela is any better than Son, Dele or Moura. Is totally obvious your point in those situtations is something like "well, if he's that good, then why is he behind players such and such in the pecking order?"

BTW, after the 2015/2016 season, if anyone wants to draw comparisons between Lamela and Modric, then I can totally see why. Sure, it wouldn't be my personal opinion that Lamela usually influence games as strongly as Luka does, and I don't think they are such similar players (though Lamela is known for making some Modric-esque passes from time to time), but you feeling so outraged by the idea seems to be a bit of an overreaction to me. Is certainly not worse than when people say Kane is in the same level of Messi just because he scores a lot, or that Dele is the best 21 year old player in the world.
 

jezz

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I mean that's just false.

You're saying if son, eriksen and Alli are all fit and on form Lamela gets in in front of one of them most of the time?
Yes he did.
In 2015 - 2016 season (the last full season for all 4 AM were available )
Eriksen 35 appearances 2 subs
Lamela 34 appearances 6 subs
Alli 33 appearances 5 subs
Son 28 appearances 15 subs
These stats come from premier league.com
Things are different now but only because Lamela is returning from a 13 month lay off injured.
Before that he started in the first eleven most of the time.
 

Streetspur77

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Yes he did.
In 2015 - 2016 season (the last full season for all 4 AM were available )
Eriksen 35 appearances 2 subs
Lamela 34 appearances 6 subs
Alli 33 appearances 5 subs
Son 28 appearances 15 subs
These stats come from premier league.com
Things are different now but only because Lamela is returning from a 13 month lay off injured.
Before that he started in the first eleven most of the time.

Sorry but that's just ridiculous.

At one point in time Soldado started in front of Kane, should we get Soldado back and put him in front of Kane based on that?

Also your stats miss out the fact both dele and son were summer signings and therefore didn't make starts until mid September iirc
 

Hoops

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Nice to see him in the position where he apparently caused havoc in Serie A.

If I were Dele, I’d be a tad worried.

Dele needs to pull his finger out. Good eye for a pass has Lamela. I think he is mentally tougher now. You can see him wanting the ball all the time.
 

jezz

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Sorry but that's just ridiculous.

At one point in time Soldado started in front of Kane, should we get Soldado back and put him in front of Kane based on that?

Also your stats miss out the fact both dele and son were summer signings and therefore didn't make starts until mid September iirc
Soldado was sold Lamela is still here that being the difference.
I'm giving you the facts not hearsay so how is that ridiculous?
All you've done is ridicule and insult everybody based on your opinion.
If you can't respect other peoples opinion don't expect them to respect yours.
 

dudu

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Eriksen on Lamela's goal.

It was with his right foot as well! He normally doesn’t use his right foot for anything but standing on.

Even our own players know this... Yet ive seen posters vilified for alluding to this.

#LamelaThread
 

Ossie85

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Nice to see him in the position where he apparently caused havoc in Serie A.

If I were Dele, I’d be a tad worried.

He didn't play CAM at Roma, only RW. Totti was the CAM
He played CAM at River
 

Donki

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He didn't play CAM at Roma, only RW. Totti was the CAM
He played CAM at River

Ts so strange watching video's of him at Roma he looks a completely different player. I still rate him but he has had to adapt to England. He did play centrally in a handful of games for Roma, he also started out on the left for Roma.

 
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