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coys200

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You could walk with a break. But would suggest it’s a lesser break. At least he will have summer to start his recovery. Hopefully be back start 2019 so not miss too much football.
 

Spurzinho

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just passed the ball and seemed to step awkwardly and went down, he did get back on his feet and hobble around a bit but went back down again. he did walk off, is that possible with a break?

It was an incomplete fracture, meaning that the bone is still intact and there was no compound element (where the bone breaks through the skin). It could be a minor fracture (a tiny little crack) or a more substantial crack. I'd doubt very much that someone could walk on anything but a minor fracture.
 

Spurzinho

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A quick google search suggests that unless he's fractured bone as well then it should only be 6-12 weeks recovery for AITFL ligament damage.
 

coys200

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The good thing is it’s probably only 6 weeks. So won’t have a major impact on his progression. If you have a major injury at youth level can really screw things up as we’ve seen with Edwards. Wonder what would have happened had he not got that injury on that CL trip.
 

Spurzinho

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We've lost a few to injury over the years. From the tragic case of Radwan Hamed to the real let down that was Terry Dixon's short career. There was also Ollie Modeste who never seemed to recover from his out of the blue head injury.Ryan Mason's career with us was dogged with injury which held him back time and time again. So many players who were bursting to come through only to get a knock or a strain at the last minute and by the time they were back the door had closed. An argument can be had that it happened to Alex Pritchard more than once although its a matter of debate whether he was good enough to actually establish himself long term.
 

Spurzinho

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Another one would always looked good when he played but it was just never often enough was Cameron Lancaster. He was a really tidy striker but he suffered some horrendous injuries. Dorian Dervite also comes to mind. He was a really tasty player who looked to have the lot. He made his debut in the cup and looked excellent but then I think he destroyed his knee in his very next game playing for the U23s and was out for what seemed like forever. He was never the same player after that and now plays at Bolton where he is a pretty average Championship defender.

I'm on a bit of a hobbie horse here, lol, I could go on and on.

Paul McBride, is another one. A really pacey, tricky winger who was in the same age group as Kane. He had some serious potential but just picked up injury after injury.

Jamie Davis was a very exciting young winger we had way back. He missed so much football through injury though and just faded away. Chris Riley, now on the staff, was a really promising right back as a schoolboy but just got wrecked through injury and had to retire early.

Retiring early reminds me of Kieran McKenna, former U18s boss now running the academy at Man Utd. He was with us for a number of years because of his genuine talent but just suffered back to back near career ending injuries. The last one, to his hip finished him off.

I'll stop now because I'm probably boring everyone.
 

coys200

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Yup that’s why it’s good BLF looks short term. Even TOB injury seems to have really set him back. 17-20 is absolutely crucial for these guys, 6 months out can ruin everything.
 

IGSpur

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Listening to talksport, and they're mentioning England are going to have to employ one BAME coach at each level. And it just reminded of a tweet I saw which mentioned Justin Cochrane is leaving to join the FA. Big shame that we will be losing such an important and influential coach. And while I understand the reason the rule has been brought in, it's a shame we will be losing our coach as a result, which might otherwise not have happened were this rule to come in. This would no doubt reward his work if he does want a go and he would more than deserve it, but then does open the question why it took until this rule to come in before he apparently got a look in.
 

Spurzinho

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Listening to talksport, and they're mentioning England are going to have to employ one BAME coach at each level. And it just reminded of a tweet I saw which mentioned Justin Cochrane is leaving to join the FA. Big shame that we will be losing such an important and influential coach. And while I understand the reason the rule has been brought in, it's a shame we will be losing our coach as a result, which might otherwise not have happened were this rule to come in. This would no doubt reward his work if he does want a go and he would more than deserve it, but then does open the question why it took until this rule to come in before he apparently got a look in.

The same reason affirmative action has proved necessary in every other field. Its an unpalatable truth but a truth none the less that minorities are discriminated against. It doesn't all have to be in an overt way but its clear that a cultural bias toward white men exists across the board. Black coaches' failures seem to be judged more serious than white coaches' failures. I'm no fan of Paul Ince as person but I think he makes a good point when he ask aloud why he struggles to get work when someone as demonstrably incompetent as, say, Adie Boothroyd can get a plum job with the FA. Trust is harder won and quicker lost for black coaches.
 

@Bobby__Lucky

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Another one would always looked good when he played but it was just never often enough was Cameron Lancaster. He was a really tidy striker but he suffered some horrendous injuries. Dorian Dervite also comes to mind. He was a really tasty player who looked to have the lot. He made his debut in the cup and looked excellent but then I think he destroyed his knee in his very next game playing for the U23s and was out for what seemed like forever. He was never the same player after that and now plays at Bolton where he is a pretty average Championship defender.

I'm on a bit of a hobbie horse here, lol, I could go on and on.

Paul McBride, is another one. A really pacey, tricky winger who was in the same age group as Kane. He had some serious potential but just picked up injury after injury.

Jamie Davis was a very exciting young winger we had way back. He missed so much football through injury though and just faded away. Chris Riley, now on the staff, was a really promising right back as a schoolboy but just got wrecked through injury and had to retire early.

Retiring early reminds me of Kieran McKenna, former U18s boss now running the academy at Man Utd. He was with us for a number of years because of his genuine talent but just suffered back to back near career ending injuries. The last one, to his hip finished him off.

I'll stop now because I'm probably boring everyone.

Cameron did have a first team appearance didn't he? Seem to remember him coming on as a sub and looking a tasty striker.
 

wlhatwhl

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Another one would always looked good when he played but it was just never often enough was Cameron Lancaster. He was a really tidy striker but he suffered some horrendous injuries. Dorian Dervite also comes to mind. He was a really tasty player who looked to have the lot. He made his debut in the cup and looked excellent but then I think he destroyed his knee in his very next game playing for the U23s and was out for what seemed like forever. He was never the same player after that and now plays at Bolton where he is a pretty average Championship defender.

I'm on a bit of a hobbie horse here, lol, I could go on and on.

Paul McBride, is another one. A really pacey, tricky winger who was in the same age group as Kane. He had some serious potential but just picked up injury after injury.

Jamie Davis was a very exciting young winger we had way back. He missed so much football through injury though and just faded away. Chris Riley, now on the staff, was a really promising right back as a schoolboy but just got wrecked through injury and had to retire early.

Retiring early reminds me of Kieran McKenna, former U18s boss now running the academy at Man Utd. He was with us for a number of years because of his genuine talent but just suffered back to back near career ending injuries. The last one, to his hip finished him off.

I'll stop now because I'm probably boring everyone.

Jacques Maghoma was another in a similar situation. I heard he was close to getting a chance under Martin Jol but injury took him out and by the time he recovered, Jol was gone and so was his chance - a bit like Pritchard.
 

coys200

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We haven’t got many wrong though have we. Can’t think of one player we’ve let go in last 10 years that would really be anywhere near our squad.
 

WindyCOYS

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Another one would always looked good when he played but it was just never often enough was Cameron Lancaster. He was a really tidy striker but he suffered some horrendous injuries. Dorian Dervite also comes to mind. He was a really tasty player who looked to have the lot. He made his debut in the cup and looked excellent but then I think he destroyed his knee in his very next game playing for the U23s and was out for what seemed like forever. He was never the same player after that and now plays at Bolton where he is a pretty average Championship defender.

I'm on a bit of a hobbie horse here, lol, I could go on and on.

Paul McBride, is another one. A really pacey, tricky winger who was in the same age group as Kane. He had some serious potential but just picked up injury after injury.

Jamie Davis was a very exciting young winger we had way back. He missed so much football through injury though and just faded away. Chris Riley, now on the staff, was a really promising right back as a schoolboy but just got wrecked through injury and had to retire early.

Retiring early reminds me of Kieran McKenna, former U18s boss now running the academy at Man Utd. He was with us for a number of years because of his genuine talent but just suffered back to back near career ending injuries. The last one, to his hip finished him off.

I'll stop now because I'm probably boring everyone.

I enjoyed these mini trips down memory lane a lot!

I saw McBride have some good games but he also had some very poor games too - he was very timid and quiet and I think he lacked the drive needed to kick on.

Lancaster I think had injuries when he was 14/15/16 which stopped him fulfilling his potential - he had something, but he barely ever put a run together.

Modeste, Davis and Riley never really impressed me all that much.
 

Spurzinho

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I enjoyed these mini trips down memory lane a lot!

I saw McBride have some good games but he also had some very poor games too - he was very timid and quiet and I think he lacked the drive needed to kick on.

Lancaster I think had injuries when he was 14/15/16 which stopped him fulfilling his potential - he had something, but he barely ever put a run together.

Modeste, Davis and Riley never really impressed me all that much.

You weren't impressed by Riley and Davis? Interesting. I thought Davis was the bees knees and so did David Pleat ;)
 

George94

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Another one would always looked good when he played but it was just never often enough was Cameron Lancaster. He was a really tidy striker but he suffered some horrendous injuries. Dorian Dervite also comes to mind. He was a really tasty player who looked to have the lot. He made his debut in the cup and looked excellent but then I think he destroyed his knee in his very next game playing for the U23s and was out for what seemed like forever. He was never the same player after that and now plays at Bolton where he is a pretty average Championship defender.

I'm on a bit of a hobbie horse here, lol, I could go on and on.

Paul McBride, is another one. A really pacey, tricky winger who was in the same age group as Kane. He had some serious potential but just picked up injury after injury.

Jamie Davis was a very exciting young winger we had way back. He missed so much football through injury though and just faded away. Chris Riley, now on the staff, was a really promising right back as a schoolboy but just got wrecked through injury and had to retire early.

Retiring early reminds me of Kieran McKenna, former U18s boss now running the academy at Man Utd. He was with us for a number of years because of his genuine talent but just suffered back to back near career ending injuries. The last one, to his hip finished him off.

I'll stop now because I'm probably boring everyone.

Actually really enjoyed reading this, mate.

For someone like myself who only watches youth football when it's either on the TV or I can get a stream, hearing stories of promising youth players who ultimately never made it is really interesting.
 
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