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BringBack_leGin

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For those of you who missed Pochettino's presser, he said:

Fuck you Levy you bald bastard, I'm going to douse you in birdfeed andhang you outside the highest window in the tallest tower by your ears until the pigeons attack and rip you limb from limb
 

mrlilywhite

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The next time the Madrid job comes up (can see that happening sooner, rather than later tbh), he will be gone. How can he be happy with our lack of on-field ambition? I mean we sit here with less than 4 hours to go, and no signings look likely. No way can he be content with how things are, irrespective of what Dan Kilpatrick and Ben Pearce says.
 

LeParisien

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Moved here not to clog up the itk thread.

I am not having a go at you le parisien, and quoting you because I know you enjoy to discuss issues of argumentation.

I think one has to be careful of using the argumentative tool that : "no one can know/prove what such and such thinks/did" too much or too strongly.

IMO when this is done it may simply become a deflective device to raise the evidentiary bar so high that the only thing that will be acceptable is something akin to a signed statement. It then becomes simply a glib rejection of reasonable conclusions that are in fact based upon a range of evidence, without really dealing with that supporting evidence.

I note in this case that you are dealing with the quotes only, and that there is room for some debate if one deals only with that.

For what it is worth, IMO both the short and fuller quotes certainly give rise to a reasonable conclusion that poch wanted to spend money on transfers (esp, but not only, the bit about Daniel listening and creating together).

But, regardless, the quote has to be read in the broader context of events, and there are an overwhelming number of indicators that poch and the club wanted quality signings, including of course our whole transfer roller coaster (zaha, martial etc etc). So, in this case I don't see the no proof argument as being helpful.

We will never have anything more than evidence that supports reasonable conclusions, and I think we should be able to comment and critique on that basis.
You’re right that the sort of argument I use can (italics) be used to raise the standard of proof to some unreasonably high epistemological standard (never thought I’d write a sentence like that on spurs forum!).

However it can also fairly be used in cases where there is genuine uncertainty.

Pochettino speaks in highly ambiguous ways. Just from the above -

« I have crazy ideas » What does that mean? Does spending big count as crazy ? For spurs, maybe. Could it mean selling established names like dembele or Toby ? Yes. Could it mean neither of those ? Absolutely !

I think it’s unambiguous that he wanted to spend some money on transfers. How much and on who is not clear ...

Édit : crawling baby - some of this got deleted but whatever
 
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BringBack_leGin

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His English is really coming along.
Call me old fashioned, but even today I am far more concerned with what happens in our match this Saturday.

Frankly, when I see the great players on our teamsheet at kick off I really won't care who we have or haven't signed this season.
 

Dougal

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Call me old fashioned, but even today I am far more concerned with what happens in our match this Saturday.

Frankly, when I see the great players on our teamsheet at kick off I really won't care who we have or haven't signed this season.
You're old fashioned.
 

robertgoulet

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He's going to be asked about this transfer window all season unless we start hot and stay in the Top 4 the whole way.
 

fortworthspur

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would've liked a top midfielder but we have a great team already and Dembele isnt leaving apparently.
 

DFF

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You’d think with all of our World Cup fatigued players and injury concerns, this would be the window to bring in reinforcements for the long season ahead. But no...
 

tiger666

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Sounds like nothing happening then:

Tottenham are the only Premier League club not to have signed anyone but it's no biggie for Mauricio Pochettino.

"I am happy to keep all the squad together, there were many rumours during the summer about players out," the Spurs boss said.

"The club made a massive effort to try and extend contracts of Harry Kane, just one example. The club is trying to finish the stadium as soon as possible.

"It is difficult to understand for people in football that Tottenham didn’t sign or didn’t sell players but sometimes in football, you need to behave different.

"We are happy with our squad and we cannot improve our squad. It is better to keep our squad all together, we believe a lot in our players."



More from Mauricio Pochettino, who has refused to be drawn on Tottenham’s reported pursuit of Jack Grealish...

"I don’t like to talk about the players who are with other teams,” the Spurs boss said.

"There are many rumours during the transfer window. There is no point talking about players at another club.

"I am happy with the squad, happy with the players. We work to improve the squad, but when it is not possible, it is not possible and we move on.

"I believe in the way that we work and I have no doubt we will be competitive, with or without signings."
 
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