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mpickard2087

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Lets be honest, two of them knuckling down, batting properly, and gritting it out for a few hours is a fluke as it stands.

Both batted well, but lets see the team do it again, and again, and again.......
 

dondo

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Irony :-

The two batsmen best suited to one day cricket, playing for England in this match, are the only ones able to bat responsibly in this test match.


I think it’s less to do with which form of cricket it is and more about the talent and character of the personal.
Some of our top order batsmen are just not good enough or good enough anymore
 

alfie103

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I think it’s less to do with which form of cricket it is and more about the talent and character of the personal.
Some of our top order batsmen are just not good enough or good enough anymore

I disagree with that entirely. More and more batsman are shaping their technique and how they play the game around T20 and 50 over cricket as it is the more popular (and therefore more financially rewarding) format of the game.
 

southlondonyiddo

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And Root needs to give up this captaincy lark asap

He’s a very ordinary captain and it’s making his batting look even more ordinary

He’s a fantastic bat. Get back to concentrating on what you are/were very good at
 
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Irony :-

The two batsmen best suited to one day cricket, playing for England in this match, are the only ones able to bat responsibly in this test match.
There is a first time for everything I suppose.

As for the test series as a whole.

Still seeing the same problems as there were during the whole of the winter. Doesn't matter who bats at three if they are in there before that shine of the new ball is gone. The last two matches have had the gaping fucking chasm that's existed in this line up since before last winter.

Thank fuck we were carrying two extra wicket keepers in this test match otherwise we would have been totally fucked, right?
 

dondo

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I disagree with that entirely. More and more batsman are shaping their technique and how they play the game around T20 and 50 over cricket as it is the more popular (and therefore more financially rewarding) format of the game.


it’s about mentality and talent all other countries have the same issues and they don’t have the same problems with their top order
 

dondo

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There is a first time for everything I suppose.

As for the test series as a whole.

Still seeing the same problems as there were during the whole of the winter. Doesn't matter who bats at three if they are in there before that shine of the new ball is gone. The last two matches have had the gaping fucking chasm that's existed in this line up since before last winter.

Thank fuck we were carrying two extra wicket keepers in this test match otherwise we would have been totally fucked, right?


Could play it safe and call up foakes.
Would be good comedy value having stokes woakes and foakes in the same team
 

UncleBuck

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I was just thinking about Cook and whether the added pressure of knowing his opening partner will probably be back in the hutch within fifteen overs has got to have an influence on his average.
This graph highlights his form brilliantly, a lack of getting to three figures consistently over the last couple of seasons is clearly evident:
http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Players/PlayerBatGraph.asp?PlayerID=3349
 

VegasII

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Cook definitely fading more than ever now, and Jennings surely bowled out of the squad.

If we could find a pair of openers like Langer and Hayden, or Cook and Strauss in their prime, we'd be getting closer to being in business.

Who the hell will come in as an opener when they drop Jennings?
 

mpickard2087

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I don't care who they are, what their form/record is like, but I want us to find four hardnosed blockers who are going to tough it out at the top of the order. Don't care if it's boring, at the moment we need to be winning (consistently, in all conditions).

One of them might be Cook, but (as I suggested after the winter debacle) someone needs to look him in eyes, and ask whether he's really got the desire to play test cricket any more. A couple of innings last year aside, he's starting to take considerable sheen off of what is (was) a fantastic record.

Root can then bat at 5, and he's not going back up the order until he starts playing better test-winning innings.
 
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