Match Threads Spurs v Barcelona - Match Thread

Shadydan · Oct 4, 2018

shelfboy68 said:
Whether you agree or disagree with his post the fact remains regardless of 4 players out injured and players still not up to speed we would have lost anyway as we are not the team of last year, perhaps the club could of given itself a fighting chance by having a better or should I say a summer transfer window which may have helped the cause a bit better.

No, that's not a fact.

Gassin's finest · Oct 4, 2018

JimmyG2 said:
Fancy playing it out to Sissoko under pressure.
Long ball time at that stage.
Why bring Llorente on
if not for just such a contingency.

It wasn't played out to Sissoko. It was played out to Trippier, who just sent a simple pass up the line. Sissoko gave it away cheaply.

shelfboy68 · Oct 4, 2018

Locotoro said:
If you read my comments in his post you'll understand that I am not overly concerned by our early season form because we are getting better results on the whole than we started getting last season. I full expect our form to improve over the season and we will start getting back to the form we showed last season and better.

Did we need to sign a player? Quite probably. But looking at our squad who do you sign who makes a substantial improvement on what we have and is within our budget? If you're bringing in a "potential" then you run the risk of getting another Janssen, N'koudou or N'jie.

I expect and hope our form does return and quickly not sure that it will be better mind I think that is overly optimistic with nothing to freshen the squad up with as form and injuries kick in again during a long season.

Ossie'sAardvark · Oct 4, 2018

shelfboy68 said:
Whether you agree or disagree with his post the fact remains regardless of 4 players out injured and players still not up to speed we would have lost anyway as we are not the team of last year, perhaps the club could of given itself a fighting chance by having a better or should I say a summer transfer window which may have helped the cause a bit better.

I really don't know what to take from a game I thought we'd lose by 3 or more. The lack of incomings bothered me more from a top 4 perspective. Right at this moment, 5th or 6th is where I'd place my money.

Primativ · Oct 4, 2018

UbeAstard said:
But it was never 3-0?

Locotoro said:
Your post lacks any sensible application of context of any sort and is a complete load of bollocks. 4 first choice players out injured, 3 players still returning from injury on the field and you think the wheels have come off. Ridiculous

What is it you can't get through your skull? My fears and criticisms of our side have come from all of the games this season. NOT just based off last night.

That said, last night showed again we are a side lacking in confidence and rhythm, hopeless in central midfield and at the back. As we've seen all season.

As good as Barcelona were, we were just as bad. It's all so easy to use injuries as an excuse. What was your excuse for Liverpool at home? Or the terrible defensive performances at Newcastle away? First half at old Trafford?

Fact is we are nowhere near as good as we were last season based on current and recent evidence. That is called regression.

shelfboy68 · Oct 4, 2018

Ossie'sAardvark said:
I really don't know what to take from a game I thought we'd lose by 3 or more. The lack of incomings bothered me more from a top 4 perspective. Right at this moment, 5th or 6th is where I'd place my money.

Exactly what I said at the start of the season 5th or 6th at best and yes we should of lost by 3/4 more such was how poor and exposed we are not sure what is going on but defending as a team looks to be off the menu in training as well as in games.

shelfboy68 · Oct 4, 2018

Primativ said:
What is it you can't get through your skull? My fears and criticisms of our side have come from all of the games this season. NOT just based off last night.

That said, last night showed again we are a side lacking in confidence and rhythm, hopeless in central midfield and at the back. As we've seen all season.

As good as Barcelona were, we were just as bad. It's all so easy to use injuries as an excuse. What was your excuse for Liverpool at home? Or the terrible defensive performances at Newcastle away? First half at old Trafford?

Fact is we are nowhere near as good as we were last season based on current and recent evidence. That is called regression.

There is no excuses for the poor performances so far to date but I think you along with the rest of us are going to have to accept this season maybe a bit of a write off.

Ossie'sAardvark · Oct 4, 2018

shelfboy68 said:
Exactly what I said at the start of the season 5th or 6th at best and yes we should of lost by 3/4 more such was how poor and exposed we are not sure what is going on but defending as a team looks to be off the menu in training as well as in games.

I can't agree on the training, I don't see them. Something isn't sitting right tho. On paper this weekend is a formality, the reality is we could struggle. I wonder if there's something inside the club that's a concern, that we don't know.

shelfboy68 · Oct 4, 2018

Ossie'sAardvark said:
I can't agree on the training, I don't see them. Something isn't sitting right tho. On paper this weekend is a formality, the reality is we could struggle. I wonder if there's something inside the club that's a concern, that we don't know.

Same here I was joking about the training but yes can see a struggle on our hands certainly not looking forward to the west ham game's or city, reckon we could be out of that cup as well as looking like the CL still in gives us a better chance in the league.

rupsmith · Oct 4, 2018

shelfboy68 said:
I think expecting or hoping for third with this team is pushing it a bit it looks like we are going out of the CL and probably may not make it in the top four either with the way we are playing no consistency.
The team is off the pace and simply struggle to carry out basic defending aligned with no recruits this season will be a struggle, I wouldn't build your hopes up for many signings in the summer think we maybe dissapointed along with maybe a couple of the better players going.

I actually meant third in the CL group - I thought that that would result in a Europa League "qualification"?

mil1lion · Oct 4, 2018

Primativ said:
No you have a word with yourself. Some of us can see we have been in decline this season, or bad form, whatever you want to call it.

What actually makes me laugh is...fans who think everything is ok because we get 3 points. They completely gloss over our issues. We have literally hardly played well all season. Some players like Dier are in atrocious form. Our defence has become terrible. I've never seen it so bad under Poch and this is with the same players! Compare how we were last season v Madrid home and away to what we've been like last night. The difference is astounding and depressing.

Like we beat Huddersfield and everyone see it's ok. I'm sitting there going...no it isn't. Last night wasn't a one off game against an elite side, it was a continuation of the trend of our issues I've seen ALL season.

Have we had a single impressive result all season? United away? Same United that lost to Brighton and West Ham. Same United that should and could have been out of sight against us at half-time. Same United who are on the verge of sacking Mourinho as they are so poor and he's lost the dressing room.

Some of us can see some worrying signs at Spurs at the moment. It isn't "just because we lost to Barcelona". That's ridiculous. Its because it looks like the wheels have come off Poch's Spurs so far this season and last night was further evidence of this malaise. Our CM last night like all season was non existent and our defence so open. Massive issues.

Sorry but I can't help but laugh at the use of the term 'all season' when we've just reached October. We're always slow starters under Poch and given we didn't have much of a pre-season due to the world cup it's not a surprise we haven't started well. It's a long season ahead. You may be right to be worried but come on it's still way too early for all this shit.

Krafty · Oct 4, 2018

Really need to sort this passing out from the back shit out. We will face opponents who will let us do it, but when they don't, we need to switch things up. Looks a lot like we want to play out from the back, but we haven't actually thought about it. Its a contributory factor to and result of poor decision making.

The full backs need to know not to get dragged out wide when we are playing a back four
The wide midfielders/forward need to know they have a defensive job to do and will need to pick up runners. when we only have four defenders
We need to have three in midfield against top teams (or have Eriksen, Alli and two central midfielders as the former two will help fill central spaces)

Individuals need to clear out the noise and clutter from their minds, Poch needs to give them simple instructions, and we need some defensive solidity. Focus should be on building from the back, but it feels we have hoped we can lead from the front - that will be fine against Cardiff, and when we are on top form, but its why we do and will continue to struggle against teams who are equal or slightly better than us.

spursfan77 · Oct 4, 2018

I can’t find any footage of the disallowed goal. Was it the correct decision?

I couldn’t see the handball in the build up as it was down the other end to me. The ref was in their pocket all night so I’ve no idea if it was the correct decision or not.

lis spur · Oct 4, 2018

spursfan77 said:
I can’t find any footage of the disallowed goal. Was it the correct decision?

I couldn’t see the handball in the build up as it was down the other end to me. The ref was in their pocket all night so I’ve no idea if it was the correct decision or not.

At the game it looked a handball .

Blackrat1299 · Oct 4, 2018

shelfboy68 said:
A fair assessment would be that at 3-0 the game was too easy for Barcelona and so they slacked off allowing us in which slightly skewed the result making it look more of a game than it was.

It never got to 3-0, it went 2-0 then 2-1 then 3-1 then 3-2 then 4-2 So they must have taken their foot of the pedal at 2-0.

Sweetsman · Oct 4, 2018

Primativ said:
What is it you can't get through your skull? My fears and criticisms of our side have come from all of the games this season. NOT just based off last night.

That said, last night showed again we are a side lacking in confidence and rhythm, hopeless in central midfield and at the back. As we've seen all season.

As good as Barcelona were, we were just as bad. It's all so easy to use injuries as an excuse. What was your excuse for Liverpool at home? Or the terrible defensive performances at Newcastle away? First half at old Trafford?

Fact is we are nowhere near as good as we were last season based on current and recent evidence. That is called regression.

Two of those games we won, one we could have drawn if awarded a legitimate penalty. You seem to have difficulty accepting outcomes that go against your hypothesis.

Sweetsman · Oct 4, 2018

lis spur said:
At the game it looked a handball .

Is it true we should've had a penalty?

Sweetsman · Oct 4, 2018

mil1lion said:
Sorry but I can't help but laugh at the use of the term 'all season' when we've just reached October. We're always slow starters under Poch and given we didn't have much of a pre-season due to the world cup it's not a surprise we haven't started well. It's a long season ahead. You may be right to be worried but come on it's still way too early for all this shit.

It's never too early for some of them.

Gassin's finest · Oct 4, 2018

I thought the second half was the best we've played so far this season. Regardless of the defeat, I think that performance will kick start our season now... from a performance POV of course, we have actually won 5 out of 7 games in the league, in case some people hadn't realised...

Ionman34 · Oct 4, 2018

Primativ said:
No you have a word with yourself. Some of us can see we have been in decline this season, or bad form, whatever you want to call it.

What actually makes me laugh is...fans who think everything is ok because we get 3 points. They completely gloss over our issues. We have literally hardly played well all season. Some players like Dier are in atrocious form. Our defence has become terrible. I've never seen it so bad under Poch and this is with the same players! Compare how we were last season v Madrid home and away to what we've been like last night. The difference is astounding and depressing.

Like we beat Huddersfield and everyone see it's ok. I'm sitting there going...no it isn't. Last night wasn't a one off game against an elite side, it was a continuation of the trend of our issues I've seen ALL season.

Have we had a single impressive result all season? United away? Same United that lost to Brighton and West Ham. Same United that should and could have been out of sight against us at half-time. Same United who are on the verge of sacking Mourinho as they are so poor and he's lost the dressing room.

Some of us can see some worrying signs at Spurs at the moment. It isn't "just because we lost to Barcelona". That's ridiculous. Its because it looks like the wheels have come off Poch's Spurs so far this season and last night was further evidence of this malaise. Our CM last night like all season was non existent and our defence so open. Massive issues.

Jesus pal, smoke a joint ffs!

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