RB the options/solutions

Lighty64 · Feb 21, 2019

coys200 said:
I think the fact we have KWP is a good thing at least it makes them think about the situation. If we just had Aurier/ trippier I’m pretty sure they’d just plod along with the situation they still may do. But at least they have to make a decision at least 1 has to go. Still done get the ridicule of trying foyth at RB when he’s clearly the best footballer of the 4 and completely equipped to play there. And as said have been numerous CB that play FB.

he played RCB and covered Aurier when Aurier was returning from attacking duties, and had 1 bursting run down the right. that doesn't make him a RB or a RWB.

this season Aurier has been injured, plus had a personal issue that he was arrested for. last season he was a late summer signing and has struggled due a lot of players being rotated when he has been fit. last season he gave away 2-3 clumsy pens, this season he hasn't. he has his brainfart moments but so did Walker, and many other players in the world of football.

Trippier is best suited to when we play 3 at the back, but due to the way Poch rotates his backs/wing backs (every game, especially if 2 games in a week), and injuries that have meant not being able to play 3 at the back, then Trippier has sometimes played as a RB, and not very well especially against pace. the trouble is with any defender once they miss place a pass 9/10 times it will create a chance for the opponent. unfortunately when Trippier has messed up it usually cost us a goal.

IMHO though we had 9 players get to the final weekend of the WC. none of them have had a true rest since last season, none of them have had a preseason, and a few of them haven't exactly been at their best this season, the only 2 with any consistency have been Toby and Jan, but even they have made errors or had bad days that have cost us this season.

we really need to concentrate on getting a decent CM, CDM and if Eriksen goes a replacement for him. I wouldn't be shocked providing either Aurier or Trippier don't want to move themselves, that we will look at upgrading them the season after with KWP getting enough run outs too, and then decide. I can't see Poch wanting more than 3-4 new players max

Lighty64 · Feb 21, 2019

coys200 said:
Yeah I’m not suggesting Dier as a serious option but handy in an emergency. Anyway gonna be very interesting what manifests. Will also get a clearer indication who is actually current no 1 when are less games for rotation.

that's not going to happen in the near future. we might have the possibility of 2 free Saturday's due to the FA Cup, but after the 6th we will be playing 2 games a week for the rest of April, and if we reach the semi's of the CL then it will be for the rest of the season

JayB · Feb 23, 2019

Said it before and I'll say it again: Sell them both. The RB position needs to be completely revamped.

THFCSPURS19 · Feb 23, 2019

Should keep Aurier and Trippier and force them to train with the U18s until their contracts run out. Need to be punished.

TheVoiceofReason · Feb 23, 2019

Trippier and Aurier are not good enough.

CANNOT understand why we keep waiting for them to miraculously improve despite their fundamental flaws, whilst meanwhile one of our brightest academy products sits on the bench like a fucking lemon.

dtxspurs · Feb 23, 2019

TheVoiceofReason said:
Trippier and Aurier are not good enough.

CANNOT understand why we keep waiting for them to miraculously improve despite their fundamental flaws, whilst meanwhile one of our brightest academy products sits on the bench like a fucking lemon.

Guarantee one of them (most likely Trippier) will still be number one next season. So fucking frustrating.

JayB · Feb 23, 2019

Think the issue with KWP is that he doesn't (yet) have the strength to cope with Premier League attackers. Poch saw him get absolutely bullied by Antonio and has hardly given him a look in since.

Hopefully that will be resolved as KWP fills out his frame but for the time being it means that we are stuck with two players who are miles away from being good enough for a club with ambitions to compete at the top of the table and in the CL. It absolutely has to be addressed in the summer.

TheVoiceofReason · Feb 23, 2019

JayB said:
Think the issue with KWP is that he doesn't (yet) have the strength to cope with Premier League attackers. Poch saw him get absolutely bullied by Antonio and has hardly given him a look in since.

Hopefully that will be resolved as KWP fills out his frame but for the time being it means that we are stuck with two players who are miles away from being good enough for a club with ambitions to compete at the top of the table and in the CL. It absolutely has to be addressed in the summer.

Agree KWP has had a couple of unconvincing games, but he's also been very impressive in the others. Surely worth giving him a run.

JayB · Feb 23, 2019

TheVoiceofReason said:
Agree KWP has had a couple of unconvincing games, but he's also been very impressive in the others. Surely worth giving him a run.

I'm speculating here but I think Poch rates him but just doesn't think he's ready yet. If Poch didn't think he had a future at Spurs he would have been sold off by now or at least loaned out for his own sake. I just don't think that Poch trusts that he can cope with the physicality of the league as yet, but that it will come in due time.

THFC_SWE · Feb 23, 2019

Make KWP second choice at RWB. Sell Trippier and Aurier. Trippier can cross, but his defending is not good enough. Auriers highlight is the cross to Vertonghen against Dortmund. Apart from that, he has been garbage. It looks like he belongs in The Championship.

ardiles · Feb 23, 2019

KWP should follow Winks’ workout routines to help him bulk up. I’d really want him to start more games with us.

Paolo10 · Feb 23, 2019

We're not going to sell both right backs at the same time to leave us with two new faces to settle in, not that we'd sign either of them quickly enough to integrate with the squad.

Might as well get it out of your thinking tbh. Aurier is not good enough to take up a foreign spot in the squad IMO and should be the one to go, if anyone is.

Chimbo1 · Feb 23, 2019

Was talking to someone v close to him this morning and KWP is going to push to go out on loan if he one of Trips or Serge don’t leave at end of season

Wheeler Dealer · Feb 23, 2019

I think we all under appreciated Walker when he was here, believing we could do better. Walker's speed of recovery is probably the best in the business and unfortunately neither Trippier or Aurier are anywhere close to him in this department and this is a key attribute when playing as a wing back.

dtxspurs · Feb 23, 2019

Wheeler Dealer said:
I think we all under appreciated Walker when he was here, believing we could do better. Walker's speed of recovery is probably the best in the business and unfortunately neither Trippier or Aurier are anywhere close to him in this department and this is a key attribute when playing as a wing back.

I'm glad to have fully appreciated Walker in his time here. He was a fucking badass.

UncleBuck · Feb 23, 2019

dtxspurs said:
I'm glad to have fully appreciated Walker in his time here. He was a fucking badass.

Yup, still don’t think we got enough oil money out of it...

Cruyff · Feb 24, 2019

With the benefit of hindsight, we should have either cashed in on Trippier after the World Cup or properly rested him. If he'd been rested then Aurier would have played most matches at the beginning of the season, KWP would have played a bit more and then Tripper could have come back raring to go. We would then perhaps have really known whether to get rid of Trippier, Aurier or both by now as well as having a more experienced version of KWP. Instead all three are still up for discussion.

Dazzazzad · Feb 24, 2019

I find this position a really tough one. All three feel like they'd be good backups but not first choice.

I think I'd sell one of Trips or Aurier - whichever makes the most sense financially. And then bring in someone with the potential to be that first choice RB.

And then send KWP on loan to a lower PL team and see how he fares.

What I really wish is we had fullbacks who could cross like Verts. Trippier has good delivery but only when nobody is near him, which is rare these days because everyone knows he has a good cross on him and lacks the pace to beat anyone.

Yesterday I wished we had put Verts on the left and used his cross as a weapon for Kane and Llorente.

Monkey boy · Feb 25, 2019

Cruyff said:
With the benefit of hindsight, we should have either cashed in on Trippier after the World Cup or properly rested him. If he'd been rested then Aurier would have played most matches at the beginning of the season, KWP would have played a bit more and then Tripper could have come back raring to go. We would then perhaps have really known whether to get rid of Trippier, Aurier or both by now as well as having a more experienced version of KWP. Instead all three are still up for discussion.

If I remember correctly Aurier was injured for the start of the season.

CoopsieDeadpool · Feb 25, 2019

Monkey boy said:
If I remember correctly Aurier was injured for the start of the season.

Wasn't brain damage by any chance was it? I have a feeling he's not fully recovered.

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