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Ron Burgundy

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I’m not bowled over by this but if it’s what Poch wants so be it. I don’t understand why we’d have waited a year though, frankly
 

hellava_tough

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If Pochettino wants him then I'll absolutely bow to his (much) superior judgement, and I'll support him from the minute he pulls on the shirt.

I think if this was the case, we would have got him last summer.

That said, AG has had time now in the Premiership, so that may have changed Poch's mind. But it's unlikely; it's not like AG has been getting rave reviews from players, fans and pundits for the last 8 months.

Last summer I thought this would be a good signing and it could still be, but I get the strong impression that Poch simply doesn't rate the guy.
 

blackburn

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Is there any evidence that Poch wants him?

imo this is purely a story to put pressure on Everton, I'd be amazed if we were considering him and very disappointed if we signed him
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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If Pochettino wants him then I'll absolutely bow to his (much) superior judgement, and I'll support him from the minute he pulls on the shirt.


Yep that's where I'm at too. Like yourself (from what little I've seen) I'm not convinced he's the difference maker we need & lack.
 

fatpiranha

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This is an interesting one because it’s all over Twitter and in the news however jj has shot it down a few times

JJ already said 2 weeks ago he wasn't in our plans, so not sure why we're going on about this.

Can everybody please stop bumping this thread. JJ has already said it isn't happening. That made me very happy :joyful:. It depresses me even to think he might be wrong :(.

This is really weird, so many news outlets seem to be saying we’re going to sign him, yet JJ keeps say no. Maybe a smokescreen for someone (I can hope)

Jj said we are not interested in him?
 

hellava_tough

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Is there any evidence that Poch wants him?

imo this is purely a story to put pressure on Everton, I'd be amazed if we were considering him and very disappointed if we signed him

I think you're being a bit harsh on him there.

From what I've seen, he's a good player who keeps the ball well, has technical skills and has a decent passing range.

There are, however, question marks over the 'intensity' of his game. By that, I mean aggression, pace, power, the ability to relentlessly press the opposition; all traits that the 'elite' level clubs seem to want from their midfielders. This may be the reason Poch didn't show an interest in him last summer.

As a squad player, AG would be fine though. Every team needs midfielders who can come on at 70 minutes and see out a 1-0 or 2-0 lead, by keeping tidy possession of the ball and spotting the passes that set off a counter-attack.

I honestly believe that AG would be one of those signings that underwhelm most fans at the start of the season, but by the end of the season leave fans thinking "Yeah, he was a useful tool in the armoury; he played his part".
 

THFCSPURS19

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I'm guessing you're not going to be in agreement with this then bud.


[@SkyBet] understand Tottenham Hotspur have become the outright favourites to sign midfielder Andre Gomes from Barcelona.

Pochettino is now eager to bolster his midfield and Gomes’s footwork and calmness in tight situations is exceptional, similar to Moussa Dembele.
Lmao you just quoted Sky Bet via Ricky Sacks. You're not seriously using that as an authoritative source, are you?
 

dirtydave

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I think this will happen and I really like him. There is well educated player there. I've watched a fair bit of him since our early links and he portrays a head-up, calmness and confidence in his play in a similar language to Eriksson. We need more of that as I've seen Sissoko, Dier, Wanyama and Winks panic way too many times. I think Poch would successfully nuture his clear ability to read games and let him dictate tempo. He would presumably rotate with Winks but as the coach seems to get this method right (not seen anyone moan about game time this season), I think we could easily convince him to come - possibly on lowish wages.

This is an interesting watch. He was clearly excellent in his short spell at Valencia.
 

Japhet

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I wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if we ended up with him. Reminds me quite a bit of Xavi Alonso and has that confident ability to pick out the right pass. Having said that, I'd assume we're going to try for some more physical types first, namely Ndombele.
 

Monkey boy

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I’d love us to sign him based on the fact that my Everton supporting mates absolutely adore him and it would piss them off way more than when we took Pienaar off them And boy were they angry at that!!

However once JJ pisses on something then as far as I’m concerned you might aswell close the thread so can’t see this happening at all.
 

mill

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I’d love us to sign him based on the fact that my Everton supporting mates absolutely adore him and it would piss them off way more than when we took Pienaar off them And boy were they angry at that!!

However once JJ pisses on something then as far as I’m concerned you might aswell close the thread so can’t see this happening at all.

JJ said Alderweireld wasn’t happening not long before it did
 

Univarn

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JJ said Alderweireld wasn’t happening not long before it did
In that case I am pretty sure JJ said no because his clause was so complex it wouldn't work. Unfortunately there is no 100% fool proof itk, journo, or anything. Things change and players become available or go off the market all the time. Even Levy himself doesn't always know what is happening and deals he thought he had done fall apart (as we all know) or couldn't do suddenly become available.

I would not be surprised if Gomes suddenly became available for 15m because Barca just want rid and we have a look. But at that rate Everton would definitely match and that may drive his price up to a point where we think we could find better value.
 

mill

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In that case I am pretty sure JJ said no because his clause was so complex it wouldn't work. Unfortunately there is no 100% fool proof itk, journo, or anything. Things change and players become available or go off the market all the time. Even Levy himself doesn't always know what is happening and deals he thought he had done fall apart (as we all know) or couldn't do suddenly become available.

I would not be surprised if Gomes suddenly became available for 15m because Barca just want rid and we have a look. But at that rate Everton would definitely match and that may drive his price up to a point where we think we could find better value.

I agree completely which is why I wouldn’t rule anything out yet
 
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I think you're being a bit harsh on him there.

From what I've seen, he's a good player who keeps the ball well, has technical skills and has a decent passing range.

There are, however, question marks over the 'intensity' of his game. By that, I mean aggression, pace, power, the ability to relentlessly press the opposition; all traits that the 'elite' level clubs seem to want from their midfielders. This may be the reason Poch didn't show an interest in him last summer.

As a squad player, AG would be fine though. Every team needs midfielders who can come on at 70 minutes and see out a 1-0 or 2-0 lead, by keeping tidy possession of the ball and spotting the passes that set off a counter-attack.

I honestly believe that AG would be one of those signings that underwhelm most fans at the start of the season, but by the end of the season leave fans thinking "Yeah, he was a useful tool in the armoury; he played his part".

Come on after 70 mins? Are u serious. Three quarters of the league are practically cannon fodder. He'd thrive for most of the games we play. For the price being mentioned he's a bargain
 

Japhet

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In that case I am pretty sure JJ said no because his clause was so complex it wouldn't work. Unfortunately there is no 100% fool proof itk, journo, or anything. Things change and players become available or go off the market all the time. Even Levy himself doesn't always know what is happening and deals he thought he had done fall apart (as we all know) or couldn't do suddenly become available.

I would not be surprised if Gomes suddenly became available for 15m because Barca just want rid and we have a look. But at that rate Everton would definitely match and that may drive his price up to a point where we think we could find better value.

Gomes would presumably have some say in where he ends up. It's not unheard of for players to push through a particular move when other options are available.
 

Fredo

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In a good team like ours that is perfect for his play style, he can be excellent. Performances for Valencia, Portugal, even Barca at times. I think he would be a good addition.
 

hughy

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Perhaps Poch is keen because he sees him as someone who can be a "back up" player, and not necessarily a guaranteed starter. If this is the case and Gomes is happy to be a squad player then I'd be happy with him.

I still have reservations about his fitness after seeing him blowing out of his arsehole after about 55 minute for Everton in most games. I don't buy the fact that Poch can turn any player in to a 90 minute animal after a "Poch pre-season".
 

THFCSPURS19

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Perhaps Poch is keen because he sees him as someone who can be a "back up" player, and not necessarily a guaranteed starter. If this is the case and Gomes is happy to be a squad player then I'd be happy with him.
JJ says we're not keen.
 
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