Gareth Bale

Roynie · Jun 24, 2019

I suspect that nothing will happen until at least the end of July. The EPL TW ends at 5pm on 8th August. If RM wait until after that to make a deal they will be excluding too many of the potential buyers to get a reasonable deal and will be stuck with him. I certainly have no sympathy for RM, they have created this situation by their ridiculously high wages. Fcuk 'em!

Khilari · Jun 24, 2019

WalkerboyUK said:
Paycut - the guy is a multi-millionaire that already has everything a man could need. What difference is a pay cut REALLY going to make??
Lifestyle - the kids are young (7, 3 & 1). Much harder to move kids when they are ingrained in a school system or approaching exams. Better to move now than in another 2/3 year's time.

From where you and I sit (assuming you're not a multi-millionaire), it seems he has no need for the additional finances.

But I can tell you that most "very rich" people will usually not rest on their laurels and will accept the reality of a short professional career and I suspect a quality of life they are used to.

Just numbers wise (lots of assumptions here), Bale is estimated to be on a 6-year contract signed in 2016 worth £150m (reference here).
Although they say that's £600k per week, those numbers don't quite add up so for the sake of argument if we use the 150 total to be accurate, he will earn about £480k per week. He's about half-way through that, so still has £75m left to earn.

If he were to receive an offer from, let's say Man Utd who were willing to pay £300k per week and convince him their footballing aims were sky high, Jonathan Barnett may remind him that he would earn about £45m over those three years. Sounds pretty good to me.

But, in accounting terms he would essentially be saying "bye" to nearly £30m.

Now I have no idea how much money he has, what his expenses are and how much money he needs, but that's a shed load of cash and there's no guarantee that wherever he moves to he will be happy, achieve success or even get to play.

Sometimes, what's in your pocket can feel like quite a strong incentive to stay where you are.

Just saying.

rawhide · Jun 24, 2019

Capocrimini said:
Lots of things protect you mate, if you are crap at your job they need to evidence how they have supported you and usually takes something like 6 months before they start talking dismissal.

They really don’t. They can restructure and deem you surplus. You may have a little more time but they can and will serve you notice even if you’ve been great.

However the notice period works clause both ways, which is why I’d bet money on it not being part of football players’ contracts as it would eliminate transfers.

rawhide · Jun 24, 2019

double0 said:
He can just walk away and play the beautiful game of course with a settlement instead of sitting tight.

No settlement would be due if he requests the transfer. “Hi, I’d like to leave. Please pay me some portion of the 3 remaining years service you won’t get from me as I’ll be playing for a different team”

Japhet · Jun 24, 2019

double0 said:
This is what's wrong with football/footballers in my eye's, it has become too much of a business. Bale has made a ton of money already through contract sponsorships business ventures etc. When he got into football it was about playing as a professional at the highest level winning throphies - for the love of football , Bale's undoubted talent, he really should be looking to play football again. He can just walk away and play the beautiful game of course with a settlement instead of sitting tight.

I agree entirely that Bale doesn't need the money and should focus on getting time on the pitch and playing football before it all comes to an end. However, RM and Zidane have been very disrespectful to him and he has every right to make them pay for that, and I'm sure they will. In his position he could easily take a massive pay cut but I doubt the people around him would sanction that since he's their cash cow. It would be rather refreshing if just once a person in Ble's position would say 'Actually, I have enough to last me 20 lifetimes and I could put something back into the game that gave me so much',but that would only happen in a parallel universe IMO.

WePlayWednesday · Jun 24, 2019

Didn’t Bale’s agent say recently that he was going nowhere? Could that be a smoke screen to force the hand of Zidane and the board to incentivize him to leave?

If so, and he were given 30-40m to leave, it would put him in reach of a lot of clubs as he could still earn 75m in the next 3 years with a severance package and wages & bonuses.

Quite a few of the clubs being linked aren’t as wealthy or able to spend at the moment (PSG because of FFP, Bayern because they actually aren’t *that* wealthy), or able to buy at all (Chelsea), or in the Champions League (Man U), or able to offer enough massage to his ego (Juventus).

He may end up staying at Madrid, but we’re likely a more attractive and likely destination than a bunch of other clubs. Are we the most attractive though? Who knows. I just hope he doesn’t end up at Citeh or the Bindippers.

double0 · Jun 24, 2019

rawhide said:
No settlement would be due if he requests the transfer. “Hi, I’d like to leave. Please pay me some portion of the 3 remaining years service you won’t get from me as I’ll be playing for a different team”

Real might agree with that just to get him out and off their books. Instead of Bale swanning about for the remaining of his contract possibly on loan or on the golf course.

Fidget · Jun 24, 2019

Khilari said:
From where you and I sit (assuming you're not a multi-millionaire), it seems he has no need for the additional finances.

But I can tell you that most "very rich" people will usually not rest on their laurels and will accept the reality of a short professional career and I suspect a quality of life they are used to.

Just numbers wise (lots of assumptions here), Bale is estimated to be on a 6-year contract signed in 2016 worth £150m (reference here).
Although they say that's £600k per week, those numbers don't quite add up so for the sake of argument if we use the 150 total to be accurate, he will earn about £480k per week. He's about half-way through that, so still has £75m left to earn.

If he were to receive an offer from, let's say Man Utd who were willing to pay £300k per week and convince him their footballing aims were sky high, Jonathan Barnett may remind him that he would earn about £45m over those three years. Sounds pretty good to me.

But, in accounting terms he would essentially be saying "bye" to nearly £30m.

Now I have no idea how much money he has, what his expenses are and how much money he needs, but that's a shed load of cash and there's no guarantee that wherever he moves to he will be happy, achieve success or even get to play.

Sometimes, what's in your pocket can feel like quite a strong incentive to stay where you are.

Just saying.

Yeah but it’s greed, isn’t it? Top footballers like Bale are set up for life. I’m not saying it’s somehow easy to say goodbye to £30m but really it isn’t gonna make a dent in his huge investment portfolio, unless he’s been very poorly advised. None of this makes any difference in his choices but just saying.
Would love him to come play for Spurs again. If I was him I would lol.

Hotspur33 · Jun 24, 2019

One thing I've not seen mentioned, it is plausible, given their managerial history, that Bale could well outstay Zidane.
Say Zidane has a bad season, is sacked, the next man in might love Bale.

WePlayWednesday · Jun 24, 2019

Hotspur33 said:
One thing I've not seen mentioned, it is plausible, given their managerial history, that Bale could well outstay Zidane.
Say Zidane has a bad season, is sacked, the next man in might love Bale.

Absolutely possible... I wonder if Zidane wants Bale out of his squad. Maybe if he does a loan would happen with Madrid subsidizing it to put him in the shop window. That way if Zidane goes he could return, or they could get a good few for him. He will be worth a lot less if he just plays golf and not football for the next season!

TorontoYid · Jun 24, 2019

It is nothing to do with him needing cash or not. It is about the value of his services. NOBODY wants to take a pay cut or at least not a huge one. As long as there are clubs able to pay close to what he gets then he has no reason to essentially devalue his worth.

His career could end tomorrow if he has a car accident, a training accident etc.

FibreOpticJesus · Jun 24, 2019

Fidget said:
Yeah but it’s greed, isn’t it? Top footballers like Bale are set up for life. I’m not saying it’s somehow easy to say goodbye to £30m but really it isn’t gonna make a dent in his huge investment portfolio, unless he’s been very poorly advised. None of this makes any difference in his choices but just saying.
Would love him to come play for Spurs again. If I was him I would lol.

So Real Madrid sign agreements that they then do not have to stick too. Is that what you are honestly saying? Whilst I agree that his salary is obscene he is entitled to every penny and RM will pay him it.

Fidget · Jun 24, 2019

Nobody is entitled to that sort of money. But you are right, he has a contract. Entitled is not for me to decide.
Anyway this isn’t for here......I’ll bore people to death.

dagraham · Jun 24, 2019

FibreOpticJesus said:
So Real Madrid sign agreements that they then do not have to stick too. Is that what you are honestly saying? Whilst I agree that his salary is obscene he is entitled to every penny and RM will pay him it.

Of course Bale is entitled to it ( and I imagine his agent is playing the game to ensure that he gets as much of what he’s contracted to receive as possible).

I think what people are saying though is that if he chooses to stay at a club where he’s blatantly not wanted or valued simply on a point of principle and money then he can’t place much value on his actual enjoyment of the game.

It’s not like Joe bloggs taking a huge pay cut.

Of course, he may feel he’s done enough in his career at 29 to be happy with the odd subs appearance, earning one of the biggest wages in football and living a nice life in Madrid. Hardly a bad life, but would be a bit of a waste imo.

Anyway, I still expect him to end up at either Utd or possibly PSG at the end of the window.

DCSPUR · Jun 24, 2019

most likely scenerio is he signs a loan deal with us for around $200K per week (no higher than Harry)
We pay a loan fee for the season to RM - no more than $5million (which goes back to Bale at another 100K pw)
RM pay him the remaining $300k
Next summer RM hope that a revived Bale can be persuaded to move to tottenham on a perm

FibreOpticJesus · Jun 24, 2019

dagraham said:
Of course Bale is entitled to it ( and I imagine his agent is playing the game to ensure that he gets as much of what he’s contracted I receive as possible).

My point was more about the greed of Madrid. Spurs are in competition with RM ( accepted not on the same scale) and they have to give up the £30m to Bale. That’s less for them to spend destroying the market elsewhere.

Khilari · Jun 24, 2019

Fidget said:
Yeah but it’s greed, isn’t it? Top footballers like Bale are set up for life. I’m not saying it’s somehow easy to say goodbye to £30m but really it isn’t gonna make a dent in his huge investment portfolio, unless he’s been very poorly advised. None of this makes any difference in his choices but just saying.
Would love him to come play for Spurs again. If I was him I would lol.

Sure, but that's a slightly subjective view.

I'm "filthy rich" compared to some people I work with and yet I look to save as much £ as I can when booking flights, whilst they can never afford more than one flight every two or three years and could say the same thing about me.

To you and I it may be seen as greed, but to Bale it's arguably his kids' and other members of is family's future.

Of course, he may not give two hoots about the money as everything I've said is pure speculation, but the financial aspect of a football transfer undoubtedly comes into it as whilst playing football may well be their passion, it's also their job.

rawhide · Jun 24, 2019

Khilari said:
Sure, but that's a slightly subjective view.

I'm "filthy rich" compared to some people I work with and yet I look to save as much £ as I can when booking flights, whilst they can never afford more than one flight every two or three years and could say the same thing about me.

To you and I it may be seen as greed, but to Bale it's arguably his kids' and other members of is family's future.

Of course, he may not give two hoots about the money as everything I've said is pure speculation, but the financial aspect of a football transfer undoubtedly comes into it as whilst playing football may well be their passion, it's also their job.

Filthy rich you say...

Well, hello there. :sneaky:

doctor stefan Freud · Jun 24, 2019

rawhide said:
Filthy rich you say...

Well, hello there.

Your username makes sense now

rawhide · Jun 24, 2019

You say

Fidget said:
Nobody is entitled to that sort of money.

But then...

Fidget said:
Entitled is not for me to decide.

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