Aleks
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Or is it a weakness with our team and how we handle it?
apparently this happened with Alison this year as well, do you think he is not a strong keeper?
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apparently this happened with Alison this year as well, do you think he is not a strong keeper?
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Yes I do think it’s a weakness both individually and as a team. If Alison has been targeted too it’s because he’s got a weakness on this too.
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If one of the best keepers in the world (if not the best) has this weakness than what keeper doesn't?
it seems ludicrous to expect a player to magic up some unknown strength and solution to a problem that has historically been handled by the referees ever since I remember.
It’s not about strong keeper/weak keeper. It’s about a specific weakness that other teams are targeting. It’s like saying Romero is a world class defender but his weakness is losing his head on occasions and picking up silly suspensions or being sent off. It’s not like we are saying Romero is a weak defender because of that, it’s just an area he needs to improve.
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But that's the thing, people are making it into strong/weak keeper.
that is what I think is the problem.
Well this is just untrue or you’re very young because twenty years ago there’s probably no debate even whether it was a foul on Vic v Man C and probably also today. It wouldn’t even be questioned.
Just you. Who else is?
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This isn’t fifa. Good players can have weaknesses.
Vicario is a good player, he has a clear weakness that needs addressing.
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I will say that Vicario could do a bit more of what some other top keepers do when they have a man on them at set pieces. Which is to shove the opponent away from them forcefully before the set piece is taken.
I've seen Alisson, Ederson and others do that and they're never penalised.
It also draws the attention of the officials to it before the set piece is taken, helping ensure they're watching out for a foul on the keeper when it is taken.
I've seen Alisson, Ederson and others do that and they're never penalised.
It also draws the attention of the officials to it before the set piece is taken, helping ensure they're watching out for a foul on the keeper when it is taken.
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Pundits, social media, the broadcasters?
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But then the team does a running barge into him like what started happening this game
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I'm not saying it's the whole solution. But I think Vicario could be more physical. Right now teams see him as physically weak on set pieces and that's why they're exploiting it, fouls or otherwise.
You also put a defender between him and the opponent. That's just basic stuff and I'm baffled we don't do it, especially with Romero in the side.
I don’t think he’s better or worse than the majority of keepers in the league re being targeted.
But if it worked once everyone is going to try and make it work again.
So while not fair, he needs to counter and eradicate it.
That’s what leaders do. And I think he is a leader.
But if it worked once everyone is going to try and make it work again.
So while not fair, he needs to counter and eradicate it.
That’s what leaders do. And I think he is a leader.
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I agree bet instead of just him it should be "we"
we should also do the same to their keeper if it's the rules now.
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. Hardly conceded from corners before last few games. First one this season was Everton H. Headed out and Gomes shot went in. One v City and today . Cannot think of any more.
I doubt it. It’s not like the ref would have sent anyone off for that kind for that kind of contact. The Everton players would have been more than happy to risk a booking for a potential goal I think. In general I think Vicario was more commanding and assertive in the second half.
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I specifically watched every corner to see if they were going to do it and they didn't attempt the tactic.
Yeah I am sure there was something recently about how well we have defended set pieces this season.
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