███████ Match Ratings vs Chelsea ███████

Discussion in 'Spurs Chat' started by OmarsComing, Dec 22, 2011.

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  1. Friedel

    3.5%
  2. Walker

    0.9%
  3. King

    0.4%
  4. Gallas

    1.8%
  5. Assou-Ekotto

    0.9%
  6. Sandro

    66.8%
  7. Modric

    1.3%
  8. Parker

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Bale

    18.6%
  10. Van Der Vaart

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Adebayor

    4.9%
  12. Pavlyuchenko

    0.9%
  1. sloth

    sloth Well-Known Member

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    That's a good analysis of what Harry was trying to achieve, it falls down however, when you consider the player he was trying to achieve it with. Conceding the middle of the park to a team as strong as Chelsea in exchange for the added goal-threat of Pav is frankly a little reckless.

    I don't think it was a dreadful move by Harry, and over all I'm pretty pleased with a decent performance in tough circumstances, but I do think his instinct ruled his logic.
     
  2. sloth

    sloth Well-Known Member

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  3. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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  4. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    I don't think we got our tactics right from the outset. Our midfield was rather flat and for all the possession we had before Chelsea equalised, we didn't move the ball quickly enough/our off the ball movement wasn't good enough and we created very little. Chelsea missed a sitter within minutes of Adebayor's goal. As halftime approached, we were passing to each other around the halfway line-"Here-you have that because I don't know wtf to do with it."
     
  5. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    It's not often I say this, but I disagree with your assessment. I think Redknapp had every reason to believe that Romeu would be playing, not Mikel as Romeu had been starting recently. He also switched VDV right against Arsenal, in an equally tactically inept move. But against Cole/Mata this was even crazier.

    I also cannot believe for a nano second that the manager of Pavlyuchenko, would put him on thinking he's going occupy Chelsea players more than what Kranjcar would have done. Not only was Redknapp playing Kranjcar in cm earlier in the season, but Kranjcar is actually an ideal player to play in the hole much more competently than Pav.

    I don't believe the decision to default to 442 was a clever decision to exploit a perceived weakness, it was Redknapp reaching for the comfort blanket in the absence of coming up with something more imaginative.

    I don't think it was brave, and I don't think AVB was brave either, I think both were conservative in their application (both brought in destroyers for example) and the game only really opened up with Redknapp's reversion to his trusty 442 and surrender of the midfield, a move which could have seen the game over for us long before Terry's arse made the stop of the day.
     
  6. walworthyid

    walworthyid David Ginola

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    I completely agree. Of all the things he could have done, the thing he actually did was the worst.

    Pav has his uses, few as they are, but that was not one of them. We needed to keep 3 in the middle whilst replacing a player on the right. Bring on Pienaar and push Modric forward 10 yards?

    The worst thing of all is that he knew what would happen........
     
  7. bananafish

    bananafish Banned

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    I swear that the only reason he has suddenly started using Pav is to get on his sweet side, after leaving him out in the cold the ENTIRE SEASON. Before these last two weeks, he'd resort to anything before Pav.

    I think Harry is a man manager first and foremost. That's not to say he doesn't consider tactics, but given his sudden change of mind in the media about Pav in recent days I have a strong suspicion he has been trying to soften the blow of Pav staying. But Pav is ofc still pissed and still not very good.

    I'm getting really worried about whether we're going to get a new striker. I don't think there is any sign we are, because our usual targets (Rossi, Leandro, Llorente, Wickham etc) are out of our reach in Jan, and there aren't really any PL strikers to poach. Maybe a Zamora or Amauri or something.
     
  8. Mr Pink

    Mr Pink SC Supporter

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    Yep, exactly. We can tap dance around this all day long but at the end of the day you're asking for trouble by handing the impetus to Chelsea in midfield by going 4-4-2. Of course this was compounded by the fact that everything Pav touched turned to shit.

    I would be dying to know how that would of turned out had Kranjcar been asked to play in between the lines, coming deep and matching them up in the middle of the park.

    We still might not of won but I tell you what Chelsea wouldn't of created that many chances.

    Had Ramires taken one of his gilt edged chances, particularly the header, I reckon the change for Pav would of been picked up on more in the media.

    Anyway, lets not complain too much ffs we are third at xmas :grin:
     
  9. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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    :eh:...Pienaar was on the bench...maybe he should have done that then...:whistle:
     
  10. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    Someone said Pienaar had a virus, SP.
     
  11. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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    I know...I was extracting the urine :wink:
     
  12. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    Sorry, SP. Must be the bacon sandwiches.
     
  13. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    Kyle Walker's mistake which led to Drogba hitting the post reminded me of mad Alan Hutton's terrible boob up at SJP last season.
     
  14. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    Can we really not find a better rb than Walker ? At least Ekotto has cool hair and can philosophise.
     
  15. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    I've never bought into the BAE cult. In fact, it gives me the fucking hump.

    As for Walker, I'm unsure about him.
     
  16. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    I can live with Ekotto's occasional lapses of laissez faire, because he's actually, technique wise, a decent footballer, but Walker's just a poor footballer with quick legs.

    Upgrading Ekotto would be harder than upgrading Walker.
     
  17. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    One thing I can't understand about Walker is why he seems to give people a head start.
     
  18. Tom Read

    Tom Read Active Member

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    Give him a break, he is 21 after all. I mean, how good was Neville at 21 or someone like Dixon? I know they weren't amazing, but they played in a top team for a good 15 years.

    Give the lad a chance.
     
  19. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    So you want me to wait 15 years for him to become Gary Neville ?
     
  20. AnotherSpursFan

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    We've got one of the best emerging right backs in the league and we should be thankful.
     

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