►►►►►► Match Ratings vs Manchester City ◄◄◄◄◄◄

[Houdini]

Friedel - 7

Walker - 6
Kaboul - 8 MOTM.
King - 6
BAE - 6

Lennon - 7
Modric - 6
Parker - 7
Bale - 7

VdV - 6
Defoe - 7

Subs:
Livermore - 6
Pienaar - 6

 

[Bus-Conductor]

All the goals bar Bale's were poor defending.

Here's another question. What the fuck was Friedel doing on the penalty, he leaps to the left and then dives to the right, giving himself no chance of saving it the way he chose to go.

 

[punkisback]

I agree, see the ratings from 'punkisback', I dread to think what his ratings were when we lost 5-1 at home early doors.

We lost that game due to injuries, tactics and formations used. All in all the team weren't quite at their best today because we were up against a decent team;therefore we didn't hit the heights we have come to expect this season. But no way should we be carved open like the first goal. Again post your own ratings instead of having a go at people.

 

[Mattspur]

Friedel - 7 - Came off his line well
Walker - 6 - ok on the ball, got caught out for the first 2 goals
Kabaul - 8 - Solid
King - 7 - Why? :bang:
BAE - 7 - Better in the second half when he played on the wing more. Great goal.
Lennon - 7 - Did ok, bit wasteful, as usual.
Modric - 7 - Played some nice balls. held his own. (not his own balls).
Parker - 7 - Got stuck in.
Bale - 7.5 - The more he stays out wide, the better he plays. Great goal.
VDV - 5.5 - linked with the midfield but didn't offer much going forward.
Defoe - 5.5 - Scored a goal. Missed a sitter. (he changed his run). Not much else.
Livermore - 6 - didn't look out of place.
Pinnar - 6 - did ok.

 

[punkisback]

All over us.

As I said we had lots of possession but no telling penetration. City got behind us a lot with their attackers drifting into space and cutting inside. King and Kaboul did a good job of cutting out crosses from the wings as they had people in the box. Most of our possession came in the middle third and on the wings, with hardly any interplay into the city box compared to them.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Gary Neville has just slaughtered Webb. Said he bottled two major decisions, The Ballotelli and (one I forgot) Lescott forearm on Kaboul.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

All the goals bar Bale's were poor defending.

Here's another question. What the fuck was Friedel doing on the penalty, he leaps to the left and then dives to the right, giving himself no chance of saving it the way he chose to go.

I assume due to Balotelli faking to shoot one way, then going the other :shrug:

 

[fortworthspur]

I fast-forwarded through parts of the game, but the biggest weakness to me was in the central midfield. VdV-Parker-Modric was probably too small. Sandro might have made a difference had he been healthy.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Post your match ratings if you have the time to ridicule people. You did the same in the Parker thread.

I'm not ridiculing you, I'm advising you to watch the game again as I think your take on it is incredibly different to everyone else's that appears to have watched it, including some of the teams biggest critics usually.

You obviously have a different take on the club than most, eg your Parker thread as well, in which it was clear you had completely misread the statistics.

I'm being polite to you 'punkisback'....

 

[punkisback]

I'm not ridiculing you, I'm advising you to watch the game again as I think your take on it is incredibly different to everyone else's that appears to have watched it, including some of the teams biggest critics usually.

You obviously have a different take on the club than most, eg your Parker thread as well, in which it was clear you had completely misread the statistics.

I'm being polite to you 'punkisback'....

At the end of the day we can all have an opinion. If you don't agree with me don't tell me to "watch the game again" or " you know eff all about football" etc. Formulate a counterargument. Besides not everyone will agree with you on a forum, but don't go around quoting posts without having a counterargument. If you don't agree that we offered no incisiveness, prove to me that we did. I said we had a lot of possession, but no penetration. City were better at getting the ball into our box.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

At the end of the day we can all have an opinion. If you don't agree with me don't tell me to "watch the game again" or " you know eff all about football" etc. Formulate a counterargument. Besides not everyone will agree with you on a forum, but don't go around quoting posts without having a counterargument. If you don't agree that we offered no incisiveness, prove to me that we did. I said we had a lot of possession, but no penetration. City were better at getting the ball into our box.

I 'advised' you to watch the game again. I didn't say "watch the fucking game again you stupid ****!!!" did I...???

Your argument doesn't stack up, so we weren't as incisive as City in your book, ok, but that doesn't translate in football speak to "we were totally outplayed".

It's difficult to have a counter argument to someone when the answer to what they said is just simply "Erm....no we weren't totally outplayed. I would advise that you watch the game again."

This really is a replica of trying to have a conversation with an old poster DC_Boy.

 

[punkisback]

I 'advised' you to watch the game again. I didn't say "watch the fucking game again you stupid ****!!!" did I...???

Your argument doesn't stack up, so we weren't as incisive as City in your book, ok, but that doesn't translate in football speak to "we were totally outplayed".

It's difficult to have a counter argument to someone when the answer to what they said is just simply "Erm....no we weren't totally outplayed. I would advise that you watch the game again."

This really is a replica of trying to have a conversation with an old poster DC_Boy.

City were able to knock it around us in the second half with ease, and we couldn't pick up their movement. Perhaps you can watch the game again.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Now now, play nicely kiddies

 

[Spurs_Bear]

City were able to knock it around us in the second half with ease, and we couldn't pick up their movement. Perhaps you can watch the game again.

I will don't worry, I like to watch the games more than once. It would appear I'm not alone in thinking we weren't totally outplayed though.

This is boring me now mate, no offence. I await your next thread with bated breath.

Check this thread for other people who don't agree with your assessment.

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=82998&page=2

 

[buttons]

I thought we played the better footy first half without creating anything. Second half was more open. Our fight back was impressive. The penalty at the end was gutting. My niece learnt some fairly choice new words:-/

APart from VDV who was a passenger I thought everyone did well.

 

[Blake Griffin]

I think we looked better when we went to our kind of 433 (I confess, I'm not entirely sure what it was, not for the first time as Bale just seems to do whatever the fuck he likes)

to me it was 4-1-4-1 with parker sitting deeper and vdv playing as a cm alongside luka rather than a #10/token midfielder, with bale given more freedom to drift.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

to me it was 4-1-4-1 with parker sitting deeper and vdv playing as a cm alongside luka rather than a #10/token midfielder, with bale given more freedom to drift.

I agree, I think it was very much a 4141 first half with Bale given his usual free role.

 

[punkisback]

I will don't worry, I like to watch the games more than once. It would appear I'm not alone in thinking we weren't totally outplayed though.

This is boring me now mate, no offence. I await your next thread with bated breath.

Check this thread for other people who don't agree with your assessment.

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=82998&page=2

Perhaps you could argue in an adult manner rather than responding with childish sarcasm. People can have differing views, its something you have to accept. However belittling others and thinking that your view is correct is arrogant. No one has to see eye to eye, but to go around looking for conflict because someone disagrees with you is not a good thing.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

We were totally outplayed. City got behind us time and time again. We had a lot of possession but no telling penetration.

I think this is the statement that incurred the wrath Punkisback.

We didn't have much penetration (good woody word) but neither did they. This was a tussle between two very well matched sides.

They just edged possession 53/47, which really does not suggest we were "totally outplayed", in fact at half time it was 51/49 to us.

We did actually get behind their defence on a couple of occasions but unfortunately Ekotto, Defoe and Bale never made the most of those occasions.

I honestly don't remember City penetrating us other than the Aguero chance first half and the Nasri goal.

I thought our performance today was very good first half and pretty good second, away, against the strongest side in the league.

And we were certainly not outplayed, as I feared we might be, in the way we were by Arsenal at home, or City at home or Fulham away for example.

 

[punkisback]

I think this is the statement that incurred the wrath Punkisback.

We didn't have much penetration (good woody word) but neither did they. This was a tussle between two very well matched sides.

They just edged possession 53/47, which really does not suggest we were "totally outplayed", in fact at half time it was 51/49 to us.

We did actually get behind their defence on a couple of occasions but unfortunately Ekotto, Defoe and Bale never made the most of those occasions.

I honestly don't remember City penetrating us other than the Aguero chance first half and the Nasri goal.

I thought our performance today was very good first half and pretty good second, away, against the strongest side in the league.

And we were certainly not outplayed, as I feared we might be, in the way we were by Arsenal at home, or City at home or Fulham away for example.

Perhaps totally outplayed was extreme. They were a lot more incisive and appeared threatening. When we had the ball in the final third with the wingers you knew what was going to happen. We wouldn't find the striker with one cross out of a hundred given the height and physicality of the city defence.
The best way to exploit that game would have been to use the inside channels in between richards and Savic when Richards went attacking. This was also not a game to play VDV, two wingers and JD. VDV needed to drop deep for us to gain any possession, but we could not link the midfield to the attack because defoe is not that type of striker. If we had 2 DMs this makes winning the ball back in these types of games a lot quicker and allows us to counter quickly whilst City are still in a transitional stage. Having Livermore and Parker on the field allowed us to win the ball up higher and that resulted in the chance that Defoe missed from Bale. Only one of VDV and Lennon should have started.