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Discussion in 'Spurs Chat' started by OmarsComing, Jan 31, 2012.

MOTM?

  1. Friedel

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  2. Walker

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  3. Kaboul

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  4. King

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  5. Assou-Ekotto

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  6. Kranjcar

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  7. Modric

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  8. Parker

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  9. Bale

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  10. Van Der Vaart

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  11. Adebayor

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  12. Livermore

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  13. Sandro

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  14. Lancaster

    11.9%
  1. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    But surely that is the problem with having strong opinions on very emotive subjects isn't it. If many times being opposite positions to the consensus then they will often appear more extreme than they actually are. It is only if they ultimately prove to be very wrong that it becomes a problem surely.

    Perhaps if we analyse the question SB raised in this match: Why was Ekotto marked 6 and Walker 5 ?

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    Both made poor judgements on a couple of occasions. We can toss those back and forth. Neither had shitloads to defend but neither defended impeccably. But Ekotto made 104 passes in that game. Walker made 28. They are both full backs, both with similar players that night in front of them. That's 74 more times Ekotto helped us play football, retain the ball, build an attack etc etc. If nothing else there is a point mark right there IMO.

    I explained that IMO, Walker really didn't contribute a whole lot that was overtly positive in that game. Whilst Ekotto made mistakes - which I mentioned - and didn't mention Walker's in my original post - he also saw more ball than any other player on our side, Walker less than any other player on our side bar Adebayor - who I gave an extra point than Walker because he was battling alone up front for the whole game.

    Brutally extreme or brutally rational ?
     
  2. OmarsComing

    OmarsComing Mentally Disturbed Individual!

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    Very eloquently put, old chap.
     
  3. steve

    steve Well-Known Member

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    I agree re intelligence but I think players can learn to an extent. Walker will never be as intelligent a player as King for example but with experience will come composure which breeds better decision making. I like those tenacious attrbutes in Walkers personality though, it keeps him on his toes - Ekotto's pot smoking, I'm different, it's cool attitude is great for the fans but it lends him at times to be lax in situations when he has no business being so. Not a great trait for a defender.

    As for King it's just we're seeing an uber player become a bit more normal. Without doubt he's lost pace whether through carefulness or physical decline (or both most likely) but he's still a cut above to me. At tough away games I think he's more vital than ever because when the periods of inevitable pressure come and we're forced to be compact and defend deep as a team he's brilliant, always in the right spot, composed under pressure and a quiet leader who leads by example.

    It's sad to see his physical decline but he's still got lots to offer and he looks like earning a new contract thank God. If Kaboul had his composure and intelligence he'd be the best CB in the world.
     
  4. Mr Pink

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    Finger bang on the pulse here Steve, totally agree with this assessment.
     
  5. JimmyG2

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    I don't dislike any Spurs player once he's signedwhatever I thought of them before.
    But I love Modric, respect Van Der Vaart and admire Bale for example
    and unless they play very badly indeed I am always going to
    award them good marks by default as it were. Not just for turning up obviously.
    Modric is the heart-beat of the side and is usually our best player.
    Van is a clever player who does a lot more than he is often given credit for(see the distance travelled stats). Bale is an exciting match winner.
    I find it hard to mark them down because even if they have n average game their average is better than some players best.

    We are marking their performance in a specific game but their ability sometimes obscures their actual contribution.
    You can mark them down sometimes because they are disappointing but their contribution is still greater than others.

    There I think that is clear.
     
  6. Coyboy

    Coyboy The Double of 1961 is still The Double

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    If you keep typing, the words won't slide off the computer.
     
  7. Bus-Conductor

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    There is a valid point in there. Especially the bit in bold.
     
  8. OmarsComing

    OmarsComing Mentally Disturbed Individual!

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    Bus Conductor's Favourites':

    Kaboul - fucking beast of a guy

    VDV - I wanna have his baby

    Modric - 9785/9789 pass completed (99.92576289 %) beat that you mf

    Palacios (Stoke) proper nawty hard bastard hard as nails bastard, bastard

    Bus Conductor's Undesirables':

    Dawson - fucking useless donkey player. NOT GOOD ENOUGH, NEVER WILL BE!!!

    Defoe - anonymous for 89.3/94.7 minutes of the game, scored 3 lucky goals and was fortunate to set up 2 others.

    Walker - a fucking liability, Capello might have picked him for England aged 21, but he's fucking useless

    Friedel - never comes off his line!!! Sure we are comfortably in 3rd position, but if he came off of his line we would be comfortably 1st - BRING BACK THAT PROPER NASTY **** Gomes

    Lennon - 2 assists and 2 goals IN ONE MATCH IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! 6.5/10
     
  9. JimmyG2

    JimmyG2 SC Supporter

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  10. Coyboy

    Coyboy The Double of 1961 is still The Double

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    I imagine you posting via a typewriter while smoking a pipe.
     
  11. Blake Griffin

    Blake Griffin Well-Known Member

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    this was the best :lol:
     

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