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Flatters

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Ugly as 'getting stuck in/fast and direct' or ugly as in 'cheating/unsportsmanlike'?

The former. I'd never want to see any of our players purposely cheat, but I certainly wouldn't mind us scoring goals that should have been given offside and the like.
 

leffe186

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I wouldn't be happy.

I was pretty unhappy we didn't come back to win on tuesday.

I won't be happy with less than a 3-0.

Why?

Sorry, but I just don't believe you. You wouldn't be happy if we won 2-0 and qualified for the CL proper?
 

Kinger

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"The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It's about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom." - Danny Blanchflower, 1972.

Exactly my point, I feel like we're in the champions league because we deserve it, to me if it was a handball or dive it would feel hollow, it would be worse than 'buying' the top 4 place.
 

Kinger

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The former. I'd never want to see any of our players purposely cheat, but I certainly wouldn't mind us scoring goals that should have been given offside and the like.

So what's the opinion on an Henry-esque handball?
 

Flatters

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So what's the opinion on an Henry-esque handball?

Like I say, I'd never want to see any of our players purposely cheat. I don't know what would happen if that did occur though. Would certainly put a dampener on things!
 

Dougal

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If you're not good enough to go through on ability, then chances are you will be found out soon enough. I remember getting to the Man Utd Carling Cup Final. Scrapping through against a cracking Burnley team with 2 late goals after their brave performance had them 3 up and level on aggregate was nowhere near the feeling of thumping the Scum 5-1. Not cheating (although I think their away goal didn't count?) but we got very lucky. One of the 2 Finals we went on to win. And obviously I'll make the point of how France did once they turned up in South Africa. Karma has the habit of biting you on the bum.
 

Kendall

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bah we beat Burnley fair and square, whether they were good or not. They didn't hold their concentration til the end.

Away goals only counted after ET.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Once we're in the CL, then lets play some great stuff.

But for one game, we just have to get a result.

In reality, especially given potentially increased investment in Liverpool, qualifying for 4th is going to become increasingly more difficult

I wouldn't, for example, be surprised if this was the only time we qualified for the CL in at least the next decade - I hate to say it but until things change, we are going to struggle to compete with City, Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. They just have a lot more money than we do.

Therefore, I really want to enjoy this year. So come on Spurs, lets just get there!!

Then we can play the way we're meant to
 

Dougal

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bah we beat Burnley fair and square, whether they were good or not. They didn't hold their concentration til the end.

Away goals only counted after ET.

Still left a sour taste in the mouth for some. Obviously not all, but hey, people are different. That's a good thing, mostly.
 

Kinger

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Like I say, I'd never want to see any of our players purposely cheat. I don't know what would happen if that did occur though. Would certainly put a dampener on things!

That provokes another good question...

If someone on our side was going to 'cheat' who would it be (bearing in mind we haven't signed Gallas yet so he doesn't count!)
 

Dougal

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That provokes another good question...

If someone on our side was going to 'cheat' who would it be (bearing in mind we haven't signed Gallas yet so he doesn't count!)

Robbie Keane handling the ball? That'd spark some discussion :)
 

Dougal

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Why would it leave a sour taste? Its the bloody rules!

Not the away goal. The manner in which we played and scrapped through. No doubt you'll tell me now that doesn't matter to you. Like I say, people are different.
 

yiddo_4eva

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Yep, who cares....a lucky 1-0 win to qualify will soon be forgotten we face Barca in the CL final!!
 

Kendall

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Not the away goal. The manner in which we played and scrapped through. No doubt you'll tell me now that doesn't matter to you. Like I say, people are different.

I think it was purely because they were a league below, but they got promoted that season remember. The way I see it is if we'd have beaten Pompey at Wembley despite a poor performance, would that have left a sour taste? Pompey last season were arguably a lot worse than the Burnley team who we beat.
 

talkshowhost86

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If we manage to get Gallas in before Wednesday and as long as we can teach Pav the old 'Henry juggle' then I think we'll be fine.

What do you say Dougal?
 

Dougal

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I think it was purely because they were a league below, but they got promoted that season remember. The way I see it is if we'd have beaten Pompey at Wembley despite a poor performance, would that have left a sour taste? Pompey last season were arguably a lot worse than the Burnley team who we beat.

I'm aware of where they were and the circumstances around it. If we had beaten Pompey in the same circumstances I'd have been very worried going into the Final. Like I say, quite often, if you've blagged it, you get caught out.
 

stevethfc

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I'm aware of where they were and the circumstances around it. If we had beaten Pompey in the same circumstances I'd have been very worried going into the Final. Like I say, quite often, if you've blagged it, you get caught out.

But thats quite often not the case too.
 
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