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rio bryan

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Well yes exactly, if we were in such a need of bringing someone in we would have, the fact is we didn't which tells it's own story that Poch is happy with the squad.
No we wouldn't because we wouldn't pay more than 60m for one, in fact we wouldn't even pay 30m for one.
 

DJS

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Dier, Dembele, Wanyama, Wink's, Sissoko, Amos

Dembele - injury-prone so not always available and could also be off in January

Wanyama - injured most of last season and concerns may be like Sandro where can't get back to his best (also cannot play with Dier that effectively)

Sissoko - you cannot partner him with Wanyama or Dier as far too negative and affects team performance

Winks - has had two ankle injuries that have caused him to be absent long-term since breaking through. Obviously really hope over them now and will establish himself, but if he does get injured again leaves us vulnerable

Amos - unproven, don't get me wrong would love it if he did come through but we're a title chasing team and it's a high risk not having another option


That leaves us with Dier as only player not affected by injury, who is not an unproven youth player or is Sissoko (lol).
 

coys200

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We are fine at AM. Liverpool basically have 3 if you count firmino as a striker. We do also have sissoko and nkoudou if desperate. The only positions we are light is CM and that’s fitness dependant and decent back up striker. The only team with x6 quality AM is city. Chelsea have 3 United 5 Arsenal 3.
 

rabbikeane

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Connor Ogilvie is only loaned out for first half of the season,
and he was the only one that could be named for the final spot due to home grown / club trained status.
 

rio bryan

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Dembele - injury-prone so not always available and could also be off in January

Wanyama - injured most of last season and concerns may be like Sandro where can't get back to his best (also cannot play with Dier that effectively)

Sissoko - you cannot partner him with Wanyama or Dier as far too negative and affects team performance

Winks - has had two ankle injuries that have caused him to be absent long-term since breaking through. Obviously really hope over them now and will establish himself, but if he does get injured again leaves us vulnerable

Amos - unproven, don't get me wrong would love it if he did come through but we're a title chasing team and it's a high risk not having another option


That leaves us with Dier as only player not affected by injury, who is not an unproven youth player or is Sissoko (lol).

lol You're just proving my point dude.

Dembele - injury-prone so not always available and could also be off in January

Wanyama - injured most of last season and concerns may be like Sandro where can't get back to his best (also cannot play with Dier that effectively)

Sissoko - you cannot partner him with Wanyama or Dier as far too negative and affects team performance

Winks - has had two ankle injuries that have caused him to be absent long-term since breaking through. Obviously really hope over them now and will establish himself, but if he does get injured again leaves us vulnerable

Amos - unproven, don't get me wrong would love it if he did come through but we're a title chasing team and it's a high risk not having another option


That leaves us with Dier as only player not affected by injury, who is not an unproven youth player or is Sissoko (lol).

You asked me who the 5/6 were, the fact that you have spoke negativity about some of them doesn't negate the fact that they are all def mid's so yes there are 5/6 and if we are going to apply the above to our attacking forwards re injuries then that also applies to Lamela so that brings our attacking forwards down to 4 !!!
 

rio bryan

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We are fine at AM. Liverpool basically have 3 if you count firmino as a striker. We do also have sissoko and nkoudou if desperate. The only positions we are light is CM and that’s fitness dependant and decent back up striker. The only team with x6 quality AM is city. Chelsea have 3 United 5 Arsenal 3.
Well Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool generally only play with 2 am's as they all play 4-3-3 so different numbers to Spurs, Chelsea have 4 am's, Hazard, Pedro, Rlc and William so that's 4 for 2 places, Liverpool have Mane, Salah, Sturridge and Shaqiri so that's 4 for 2 places, Man u have 5 have for 2 places, Arse i don't know and i don't care.

But i suppose your move the goalposts again now , lol
 

Lighty64

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So 5 players is plenty to cover 3 attacking midfield positions, but we are vulnerable in central midfield ( 2 positions) where we have 5/6 players as cover, please explain that one too me !

you can only have a 25 man squad, who do you suggest we sell to fit in the extra midfielder? the only 1's I would say are Dembele because he will be gone, but then we would need a CM not AM to replace, and the other is Sissoko but he has to be sold as I can't see Levy giving him away
 

Shadydan

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Just proved your point, don't make me laugh, we didn't buy anyone cos they were too expensive not because we didn't need anyone dude.

Oh My God, seriously :banghead:

Do you know what need is?, if you need something you go out and get it at all costs, we needed another central defender last season and went out and spent £40m on one (Sanchez), Poch needed a player with pace in the team in 2016 (Sissoko) and we went out and spent £30m on him If Poch thought we needed another attacking option then we would have purchased one, as such we didn't and he said he's more than happy with what he has, what is so hard too understand about that?

If indeed we were looking to bring in another attacker it's to supplement Kane in the forward role which means they would be a replacement for Llorente.

And you still haven't addressed the fact that we haven't and won't be exclusively be playing with 3 attacking mids throughout the season, the irony is that you've highlighted the fact that we were short of bench options on Sunday against Watford yet we were playing 3-5-2 which is a formation which negates the use of attacking midfielders anyway.

You're just bringing up a very pointless debate because Son was away on intl duty which is a total anomaly otherwise having him or Lucas on the bench totally puts a different perspective on it.

Do you know what our bench options were at OT: Vorm, Sanchez, Aurier, Davies, Winks, Amos, Llorente.

Exactly much weaker options than the Watford match on Sunday but no-one frigging complained then did they because we won ffs...We didn't hear nothing about highlighting the need for more players or some knee jerk nonsense along those lines.
 
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WalkerboyUK

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Surely janssen should have been named
He's out injured until the end of the year...
I believe (although I may be wrong) that, if we sign someone as soon as the window opens in January, they can take spot #25 straight away.
If we had Janssen registered then we wouldn't be able to include until the end of the window when a new 25-man list is submitted.
 

coys200

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Every squad can look thin with a couple of injuries. Liverpool named 7 midfielders for 3 spots. Ox is now out for season, Lallana just pulled out of England squad, who knows what’s going on with Fabinho. So suddenly they could only have 4 serious options when they play us. It’s all swings and roundabouts. We have the best CB depth with Toby jan Sanchez dier and foyth. Many neutrals would also say we have the best FB depth as well. Our squad depth all round is probably quality wise only worse than city.
 

dtxspurs

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Oh My God, seriously :banghead:

Do you know what need is?, if you need something you go out and get it at all costs, we needed another central defender last season and went out and spent £40m on one (Sanchez), Poch needed a player with pace in the team in 2016 (Sissoko) and we went out and spent £30m on him If Poch thought we needed another attacking option then we would have purchased one, as such we didn't and he said he's more than happy with what he has, what is so hard too understand about that?
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You're fooling yourself if you think this summer was as simple as Poch didn't ask for any players so Levy didn't get any.
 

Shadydan

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You're fooling yourself if you think this summer was as simple as Poch didn't ask for any players so Levy didn't get any.

My point is about needs and wants not about finance, whether there was money to spend and were not building a stadium is irrespective of the fact that we didn't need another attacker, even if we had money we wouldn't have bought another attacking mid just for the sake of making up numbers.
 

Lighty64

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You're fooling yourself if you think this summer was as simple as Poch didn't ask for any players so Levy didn't get any.

that's because we never sold Toby or anyone. if we had signed anyone without letting players go, we would now be sitting there with a squad of 27+ only being able to include 25 then have to pay the others for just turning up at the training ground
 

Ionman34

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Just throwing this idea in the hat, as it’s something I’ve been discussing with the old man, and that is the possibility of trying out Trippier in midfield.
We currently have 3 LB’s in Trippier, Aurier and KWP and, as has been repeated on here as nauseum, we are lacking a ball playing midfielder alongside our DM’s.
We have Carabao Cup games upcoming, which I feel is the perfect opportunity to give KWP more game time. It’s also the perfect opportunity to see if Trippier can slot into a right sided midfield role, deep lying, where he can thread balls into the channels. You have the added bonus of Trippier already having defensive capabilities where he can either fill the hole when the fab bombs forward, or support the fb when the opposition attack that flank. You also have the option for Trippier to get down the flank himself with the fb backing him up.
His lack of pace would be less of an issue in the role and we all know he can pick a pass. I likened the role to the role Beckham had for Utd.

I’m interested to see what flaws there may be in my reasoning, or if anyone else thinks that it might just be a viable option.

Jol turned Dembele from a striker to a midfielder, Redknapp turned Bale from a LB to a winger, any reason why Poch couldn’t convert a RB into a playmaker?
 
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