A point i raised a long time ago about teemu

[Capocrimini]

Tsk Taino is da bestest XD

Taino is decent, theres too much pressure on him, some people think hes a legend, and others think hes a bit part player. Murphy has done well, last season his cameos were shit though to be honest.

 

[gump]

Lets judge TT when he is fully fit.He was playing with an injury and out of position. His perfomances at the end of last season were really impressive especially at Hibuary and he will come again.

He needed an op so he must have been really struggling so lets get off his case a bit. Why do we always need to have a whipping boy....i dont get it!!!!

Its not about a whipping boy, the point was on here last year TT was considered this and that, a few wins, decent perofrmances from ghaly and murphy with malbranque to come and no one is mentioning him, i just thought id remind people of him and who he is.

he hasnt been playing out of posiiton he can play anywhere in midfield and he's played majority at Lm, and imo he has been disapointing more often than he has been good for spurs, 1 game in 3 out, not what we need and thankfully the buys fro last jan have been given there heads.

 

[Destroyer]

Ive had Murphy as my avatar since he joined in JAN , i dont know why the boo boys have such lack of confidence in him ?? He's got exactly what we need.

Looks like a right hard bastard in your avatar !! :bigsmile:

Just like me !

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Lets judge TT when he is fully fit.He was playing with an injury and out of position. His perfomances at the end of last season were really impressive especially at Hibuary and he will come again.

He needed an op so he must have been really struggling so lets get off his case a bit. Why do we always need to have a whipping boy....i dont get it!!!!

Its not about a whipping boy, the point was on here last year TT was considered this and that, a few wins, decent perofrmances from ghaly and murphy with malbranque to come and no one is mentioning him, i just thought id remind people of him and who he is.

he hasnt been playing out of posiiton he can play anywhere in midfield and he's played majority at Lm, and imo he has been disapointing more often than he has been good for spurs, 1 game in 3 out, not what we need and thankfully the buys fro last jan have been given there heads.

Well BMJ begs to differ and i'm with him.

TT is our Tiger. Since Davids lost his teeth and the pitbull became a poodle we need a fit TT in our squad and JOL will keep playing him.

 

[gump]

I disagree with you, with jenas and zokora looking like they will dominate centrally this year and lennon once fit expected to reclaim his plac eon the right, that for me leaves murphy and ghaly ahead of him for the left.
We needed teemu more last year but with the added beef of benoir, chimbo and zokora i dont think we need a ' tiger ' in the midfield as we are far more physical.

last year we didnt have the option of Ghaly, we didnt want to use Murphy (possibly in same team as carrick) and we didnt use the Hudd as often as what we are this year, we also didnt have malbranque, would you care to tell me where he will keep playing him?
Bench at the very best imo.

 

[ChrisDefoe18]

Not much has been made of Davids being left out. Jol has done it very quietly without any fuss. Playing the likes of Huddlestone and Murphy ahead of him. Alot of us thot he was undroppable but im glad to see MJ has seen sense and dropped him. He just kept giving the ball away. Great for the dressing room but probably at Ajax in January.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Plenty of football to still be played this season. If TT is fit he'll still see alot of game time.
When he was fit last season he played every game. Yes we've improved the squad from last year but quite rightly BMJ really likes him and so as I said he'll get plenty of games.

Where he plays is anyones guess because as JOL says he can fill in anywhere when needed

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Not much has been made of Davids being left out. Jol has done it very quietly without any fuss. Playing the likes of Huddlestone and Murphy ahead of him. Alot of us thot he was undroppable but im glad to see MJ has seen sense and dropped him. He just kept giving the ball away. Great for the dressing room but probably at Ajax in January.

Took much longer than it should have done but BMJ finally saw the light and dropped his fellow countryman.
Some on here would still like to see him playing though.

What hopefully finally made it sink in was when Osman took this piss against him for Everton

:adios: :supered:

 

[gump]

Plenty of football to still be played this season. If TT is fit he'll still see alot of game time.
When he was fit last season he played every game. Yes we've improved the squad from last year but quite rightly BMJ really likes him and so as I said he'll get plenty of games.

he did play him when fit last year on the left mainly, however as i said Murphy, ghaly and malbranque for me now all overtaken him in pecking order due to his injury, its a long way back once out the team as davids has found even though he started the season as TT will find.
IF we still had Carrick and not zokora id agree that he'd get a lot of game time, with zokora i dont agree, having him in the side enables us to play Murphy and lennon who are considered slightly more lightweight, ghaly adds a bit of beef also.
I said last year i wouldnt be surprised if he left in summer, but if not by the following summer, and to be fair i still stand by that, im just surprised he's lasted this long.

Anyway this wasnt really the point of the thread, it was more a case of where have all the massive supporters of TT gone and Murphy bashers now the Murph has had a run and results have picked up and he's been playing quite well without hitting top form yet.

If TT doesnt see aother game tis year i will be happy because it'll mean we are doing well, if he does i'll support him as i do every other player :bow:

 

[Bobishism]

Thought he was poor tonight.

 

[Mr.Writer]

Its not about a whipping boy, the point was on here last year TT was considered this and that, a few wins, decent perofrmances from ghaly and murphy with malbranque to come and no one is mentioning him, i just thought id remind people of him and who he is.

he hasnt been playing out of posiiton he can play anywhere in midfield and he's played majority at Lm, and imo he has been disapointing more often than he has been good for spurs, 1 game in 3 out, not what we need and thankfully the buys fro last jan have been given there heads.[/quote]

yes but he is most effective in the central midfield. i know everyone goes on about him adding 'bite' to our team, but in my opinion, he is more than just a 'committed' player. he always makes himself available, finds space well and always seem to make the right decision with his passing.

if everyone is fit i would go with:

lennon----tainio----zokora----malbranque

if only he wasn't so injury prone.

 

[nidge]

Its not about a whipping boy, the point was on here last year TT was considered this and that, a few wins, decent perofrmances from ghaly and murphy with malbranque to come and no one is mentioning him, i just thought id remind people of him and who he is.

he hasnt been playing out of posiiton he can play anywhere in midfield and he's played majority at Lm, and imo he has been disapointing more often than he has been good for spurs, 1 game in 3 out, not what we need and thankfully the buys fro last jan have been given there heads.

yes but he is most effective in the central midfield. i know everyone goes on about him adding 'bite' to our team, but in my opinion, he is more than just a 'committed' player. he always makes himself available, finds space well and always seem to make the right decision with his passing.

if everyone is fit i would go with:

lennon----tainio----zokora----malbranque

if only he wasn't so injury prone.

tainio for me is not first 11 material. He is a good squad player who can come in and do a job anywhere across the midfield meaning he is very useful on the bench. How can you say that tainio even when fit would play ahead of jenas. At the moment jenas has been putting in some very fine performances.

As for bite and being commited isn't that what we have zokora for while jenas has been getting forward a little more, although I would like jenas to, 1 when he is runnig with the ball to have more purpose and 2 to get a little further up the field when we have possession.

I think we may have got the balance right in the centre with zokora and jenas.

 

[thinktank]

I always knew what urphy could do and knew he'd be a regular for us as soon as he was match fit and integrated into the team properly. Was never in doubt.

 

[FMA]

Tainio has been dogged with minor injuries throughout the whole of his career. The fact that he has only just managed to make 200 appearances in over ten years of professional football, says it all.

Arneson brought him in for his versatility. A job in my opinion, he does very well. The only problem other than his fitness, is that he may be a casualty of his own versatility.

For me he is not creative enough to start the kind of games when the primary aim is to take proceedings to the opposition right from the outset.

However he is wasted as a straightforward holding player, as he has shown on numerous occasions, that he can link the midfield and attack very well.

One thing is for certain, with Tainio in the side our defence never goes without decent protection.

 

[gump]

if everyone is fit i would go with:

lennon----tainio----zokora----malbranque

if only he wasn't so injury prone.[/quote]

:rofl:

Great idea, leave our top scoring midfielder and currently best player with Zokora out of the side and get a player in who is likely to play 1/2 games then be out injured.

Les go the whole hog, leave Lennon out when fit and play Salteir on right midfield. :lol:

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Tianio is over rated on here by many. He is a good squad player no more, no less. And Murphy is the same (possibly less so). He has not had an outstanding game yet (I know he hasn't had much chance) he is too lightweight and needs too much time on the ball.

 

[chrissivad]

i cant see Murphy or Tainio playing a large amount of games when we get our players back from injury. Both are squad players for me.

Tainio does have a problem with injurys, this was know before he came to us. But for me Murphy fades during games, strats off well but during the second half becomes less effective.

Malbranque and Lennon on our wings (when both fit) and its going to be tight in the center. Zokora and JJ will most likly get the nod for it but i think Ghaly and The Hudd will be pushing the hardest for it. And then we still have Davids Tainio and Murphy as well.

 

[gump]

i cant see Murphy or Tainio playing a large amount of games when we get our players back from injury. Both are squad players for me.

Tainio does have a problem with injurys, this was know before he came to us. But for me Murphy fades during games, strats off well but during the second half becomes less effective.

Malbranque and Lennon on our wings (when both fit) and its going to be tight in the center. Zokora and JJ will most likly get the nod for it but i think Ghaly and The Hudd will be pushing the hardest for it. And then we still have Davids Tainio and Murphy as well.

Dont agree with that, Murphy i believe now is an integral part of our side.
Ghaly may suffer from injuries and suspensions where Murphy will be clear of both.
I agree that Zoko and JJ are cast iron first team players, i dont believe that Lennon will be, he looks a long way off fitness from what ive seen last 2 games and with Ghaly, able to fill in for him in more defence minded games, i think he to will be rotated more so than he was last year when we didnt have the players to do it.

I can see Murphy and Malbranque having a straight fight for the left mid spot, but to be fair, it could be close to Christmas before we see Malbranque starting games as he still needs to recover and then get match fit and by that time Murphy could have made the position his own if we carry on playing how we have been, since Murphy has got up to speed we have looked a better side and last night we actually looked creative for one of first times this year.

Looking at squad zoko,JJ,Lennon,Murphy, Hudd and Ghaly all seem to be the 6 on the verge of the side with Davids and Teemu in the background with malbranque to come in.
I think Zokora has been a breath of fresh air and has shown Teemu and Davids how to play at a high tempo, still be a ball winer and keep possession, something those 2 cant seem to do.

 

[chrissivad]

i did say when Lennon and Malbranque are fit, that they would be our wingers. Lennon wont play every game, thats true. And with players like JJ and Ghaly who can both play there the cover is fine.

and Emil Hallfreðsson's lone will finish about christams time as well. From reports he has been playing well, and could also push for a place on the left as well.

As soon as Ghaly gets the pace of the game i dont think he will pick up as many Yellow cards as you think. Dvids went through a patch where he was picking up a card every game almost. But later he went a few games with out one. Its just getting to grips with a new league.

Looking at squad zoko,JJ,Lennon,Murphy, Hudd and Ghaly all seem to be the 6 on the verge of the side with Davids and Teemu in the background with malbranque to come in

but yet at the start of the season when Tainio was fit it was Murphy who was in the background. Tainio cant be pushing for a place as he is out injured after just having an op.

 

[PYiddy]

Just like to highlight how this board changes so dramatically over a short period of time.

last year i was a big campaigner for danny Murphy ot be given a starting spot ahead of Teemu i cant last 90 minutes or play 2 games in a row Tainio.

Murphy has come in this season and id say we are really starting to see what he can do.

he has had a few good games recently since he has been given a run in the side and not 5 mins here and there, even tonight when he was not at his very best he had a shot which berbe had a goal ruled out for offside,the keeper pushed his shot wide after good link up play with berbatov and his tracking back was as good by Murphy as i have ever seen him do.

At the same time Murphy has come on the scene, all the 'teemu is world class" brigade has gone quiet as surprise surprise he is injured again.
At the start of the season i thought he would be useful as a back up player and that would be it, now i dont even see him as that, with Murphy coming through, Malbranque back training,davids seemingly not part of team and used as back up, and Hudd finally getting games i just dont see a place for him espec way Ghaly has come in as well.

Even when we have been struggling ive barely heard his name mentioned when last year on this site he was almost the new god.

Now he's just another player who's come in, never quite made it and will either filter out in Jan or come the end of the season and people will turn round and say, not that great anyway, just a squad player.

danny Murphy :bow:

cant believe u are critisizing a player who has done a lot for us, yet you harp on about mendes who did fanny adams for us.