AEL Limassol Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[WiganSpur]

I'd like to add that Kane was excellent tonight. A very encouraging display.

Bit of a headache for Pochettino now. What to do? Pick Kane who looks to be getting better and better, pick Soldado on the back of his nicely taken goal or pick our most proven goalscorer in Adebayor?

 

[C0YS]

But Bentley didn't live up to expectations so your argument becomes completely redundant.

Not only did Bentley not live up to his expectation but Lennon was fantastic in 08/09 being awarded our player of the season and followed it up with even better performances in the early 09/10 season before injury cut it short. His formed dipped after returning from that injury and has never really seemed to recover.

 

[thinktank]

Your eyes have seen him be effective in the front three? Or they just lead you to believe he would be effective there?

You think Paulinho can play anywhere in the front 3 yes? As in like, LWF or RWF? Isn't that what you're saying?

Don't get precious @thinktank , I'm just asking you why you hold that opinion which seems to me so evidently wrong.

Who's calling who mthrfkr, wolf boy?

He demonstrated intelligent, creative play around the box many times. From both sides and through the middle.

If you can't remember, I can't help you. Go watch some youtubes.

He comes to life around the box.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

My eyes, mthrfkr. And don't play FM...played the actual game all my life though.

If poch doesn't play him there he doesn't play him there. I'd have no option but to concede to it would I.

Something in the air tonight on SC. Or is it a full moon....

Erm. Not necessary.

 

[beats1]

I agree Kane is improving all the time, but I have never seen anything special about him and I tend to be in the camp that doubts he will ultimately make a top half premiership player.

Townsend's problem is that his pace and skill have probably made the game too easy for him until the highest level and so he is now having to learn things like tactics and decision making that others had to work on earlier to get noticed. But in addition to oace and skill he has power, confidence, stamina, two good feet, can beat a man on either side, cross from either flank and shoot, so I am desperate for us to give him what would only be his second run in the team.

Nobody, be they Lamela, Soldado, Chadli or whoever, should be written off without a run of games. Don't judge on isolated appearances where people are trying too hard to impress.

I don't think its fair to judge a player off the back of one match especially against a team strong at home in bad conditions(they were the one teams I didnt want in the draw since they beat Zenit) but townsend has shown he can play with his head up and intelligently for U21's and Millwall, normally I could shut someone and show them examples but because the fucktards at our club we don't have any U21, U18 and U16 highlights

 

[Sarsipius]

Ceballos has an overall better game from what I've seen and he's not getting a look. I'd prefer to bring him on and use AT as a make-weight for MS.

He demonstrated intelligent, creative play around the box many times. From both sides and through the middle.

If you can't remember, I can't help you. Go watch some youtubes.

He comes to life around the box.

None of which while he was playing in the front 3 though, eh? So I guess overall his coaches didn't think that's where he'd be most effective, ie not his best position.

Sorry but the way you throw your opinion around as if you know better than the professionals in the game is sometimes laughable.

But no, you're right, Ceballos is waaaaay better than Townsend, even though Poch has seen both in training and on tour plenty by now.

Where do you make this shit up from?

Oh that's right, Youtube videos. I forgot. Sorry, must go and do my research on Paulinho now...

 

[mpickard2087]

Been out all day and haven't seen anything of the game. Was it really as much of a struggle as I have been told it was? Looking at the line-up I can see why... That's some Sherwood-esque silly selections when it comes to the midfield.

 

[beats1]

Personally I wouldnt judge any player on a performance against Limassol since they are a difficult place to go to
These teams all struggled there
Marseille - They lost 3 nil
Zenit - AVB lost there 3 weeks ago and had Hulk and Witsel in the starting 11
Borussia Monchengladbach - They drew 0-0
Anderlecht - They lost

2-1 is frankly a great result, we can play a weak team in the second round as their away record is shite

 

[thinktank]

None of which while he was playing in the front 3 though, eh? So I guess overall his coaches didn't think that's where he'd be most effective, ie not his best position.

Sorry but the way you throw your opinion around as if you know better than the professionals in the game is sometimes laughable.

But no, you're right, Ceballos is waaaaay better than Townsend, even though Poch has seen both in training and on tour plenty by now.

Where do you make this shit up from?

Oh that's right, Youtube videos. I forgot. Sorry, must go and do my research on Paulinho now...

My opinions are my opinions. You agree with them or you don't.

What you're doing is making the classic mistake of thinking I care what you think about them.

But enjoy yourself, there are far worse things you could be doing with your time I suppose.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Ceballos has an overall better game from what I've seen and he's not getting a look. I'd prefer to bring him on and use AT as a make-weight for MS.

Haven't seen a lot of Ceballos to comment, but I would have all of Lamela, Eriksen, Chadli (who have all played to a much higher standard) and even Lennon (because I can still remember things he has done in a spurs shirt eg. Setting it up for Crouch at the San Siro) before AT who hasn't done anything really of note. Maybe a bit harsh but I'm just not seeing it in the lad.

 

[Yid]

So I posted this and JW72 gives it a dislike rating! ??
HurriKane gets a second for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lamela setting it up again, playing really well.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that. There seems to be an influx of idiots on here lately. Plus, he/she could've pressed the wrong icon on the phone (or something like that) by accident.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

I don't think its fair to judge a player off the back of one match especially against a team strong at home in bad conditions(they were the one teams I didnt want in the draw since they beat Zenit) but townsend has shown he can play with his head up and intelligently for U21's and Millwall, normally I could shut someone and show them examples but because the fucktards at our club we don't have any U21, U18 and U16 highlights

So why is he not doing it the first team, he has had a lot of opportunities?

 

[thinktank]

Haven't seen a lot of Ceballos to comment, but I would have all of Lamela, Eriksen, Chadli (who have all played to a much higher standard) and even Lennon (because I can still remember things he has done in a spurs shirt eg. Setting it up for Crouch at the San Siro) before AT who hasn't done anything really of note. Maybe a bit harsh but I'm just not seeing it in the lad.

He played well against schalke and showed he can be disciplined but eventually something just seems to go in his head and he bolts like a wild horse. Galloping nowhere as fast as he can.

I'm sure most fans have been willing him to get his act together but it's so difficult to see it happening, he just has a desperation about his play which he can't shake.

 

[Sarsipius]

My opinions are my opinions. You agree with them or you don't.

What you're doing is making the classic mistake of thinking I care what you think about them.

But enjoy yourself, there are far worse things you could be doing with your time I suppose.

The difference being you largely throw your opinion around like it's fact rather than opinion, and if you're not able to back up your opinion with logical argument or evidence, it's not even an opinion worth listening to, is it?

And if you don't care what people people think about them, why do you post them so much? Just for your own sense of self satisfaction?

And if you really don't care what I think, why d'ya get annoyed earlier you luna-tic

(that's a moon pun)

 

[JerryGarcia]

Those really are two cracking goals, I couldn't see them clearly on the stream before but that clears it up much better!

Lamela, Soldado and Kane should get quite a boost from that one

 

[beats1]

Ceballos has an overall better game from what I've seen and he's not getting a look. I'd prefer to bring him on and use AT as a make-weight for MS.

I seen Andros since he was 16 and I seen Cebellos(bits and bobs) since he was 14.

Townsend is better, Falque was better before Townsend went to QPR(just because falque was a great team player and never looked like he was trying in the U21's and yet still performing)

Cebellos hasn't done well for the U21's as Townsend has and I think Cebellos is more naturally talented.

I didnt watch the match today but Im not surprised Townsend struggled, he isn't a close touch dribbler whereas Lamela is a futsal dribbler who is most likely use to poor surfaces and the ball going anywhere hence he looked awesome when he was brought on.

 

[beats1]

So why is he not doing it the first team, he has had a lot of opportunities?

The thing is the U21's and other youth teams played good football whereas we haven't for the last year but even last season where everyone was shocking he was consistently voted as one of our 3 best players in the games we played last season bar 4 or 5 matches.

I actually think Pochettino is the right man for him to kick and imo better than FDB would have been, someone who I really wanted but he gets alot of abuse when performances don't go well, more so than most players probably because he is trying too hard. Then again harry kane is one match away from being a donkey again

 

[jezz]

So why is he not doing it the first team, he has had a lot of opportunities?

Agreed, Townsend had plenty of chances and failed to deliver.
Im hoping MP might be able to help him the next level and all those who think he's as good as Lamela, fcuking r@@@@@s
Sorry couldn't resist

 

[KILLA_SIN]

The thing is the U21's and other youth teams played good football whereas we haven't for the last year but even last season where everyone was shocking he was consistently voted as one of our 3 best players in the games we played last season bar 4 or 5 matches.

I actually think Pochettino is the right man for him to kick and imo better than FDB would have been, someone who I really wanted but he gets alot of abuse when performances don't go well, more so than most players probably because he is trying too hard. Then again harry kane is one match away from being a donkey again

Never knew a lot about Kane so never commented and definitely didn't think what I had seen of him was enough to warrant an opinion on where I thought he would end up but from last season and so far this couple of games I can tell he is talented. Can't say that about AT but if you say otherwise then will have to take your word for it

 

[thinktank]

The difference being you largely throw your opinion around like it's fact rather than opinion, and if you're not able to back up your opinion with logical argument or evidence, it's not really an even opinion worth listening to, is it?

And if you don't care what people people think about them, why do you post them so much? Just for your own sense of self satisfaction?

And if you really don't care what I think, why d'ya get annoyed you luna-tic

(that's a moon pun)

I have strong opinions, I don't think you should have them if your not committed to them; if you're committed to them then it's quite likely that you have given them sufficient, careful thought. If they turn to shit, own them.

So...I should not express my opinions on a football forum of the team I love because I don't care what people think of them. Hmmm. The logical corollary being... one should only share opinions that are sensitive to the judgement of others?

Go to bed, sarsipius.