If he was at a club that regularly paid those wages no-one would bat an eyelid.
I'd say he is worth it on a 2 year contract.
Just give it him. Gives us 4 CB’s locked in and we don’t have to spend the money on a replacement.
Don't forget Vertonghen is out with a bad one and out of contract next summer without even a 1 year extension clause. At which point we could end up with Sanchez and Foyth and not a lot else.
Neither of them are ready to play without an experienced CB next to them week in week out. They're both big fit strong lads but neither have shown they are intelligent enough or able to take charge. Sanchez has repeatedly lost concentration and Foyth, whether he was played into trouble or not, didn't need to concede either of those pens, they were inexperienced tackles. Suddenly putting your faith in him and him making those mistakes is not how you build him up. He's in need of education.
Sorry, he would never gave been given MOTM had he not nodded in the goal. He was shakey as fuck for the first 1/3 of the match. Had we conceded from any of the numerous late chances Palace had, he'd have been blamed and crucified.
I like him, but he's a child that needs time and cannot be counted on (yet)
Don't forget Vertonghen is out with a bad one and out of contract next summer without even a 1 year extension clause. At which point we could end up with Sanchez and Foyth and not a lot else.
Neither of them are ready to play without an experienced CB next to them week in week out. They're both big fit strong lads but neither have shown they are intelligent enough or able to take charge. Sanchez has repeatedly lost concentration and Foyth, whether he was played into trouble or not, didn't need to concede either of those pens, they were inexperienced tackles. Suddenly putting your faith in him and him making those mistakes is not how you build him up. He's in need of education.
Sorry, he would never gave been given MOTM had he not nodded in the goal. He was shakey as fuck for the first 1/3 of the match. Had we conceded from any of the numerous late chances Palace had, he'd have been blamed and crucified.
I like him, but he's a child that needs time and cannot be counted on (yet)
In an international friendly where both teams played "experimental sides "The 'child' has just picked up Man of the Match on his full International debut.
In an international friendly where both teams played "experimental sides "
Isn't Harry on 200k
I think Toby is truly top 5 in the world in his role. Pay the man!
Yeah I thought Kane was on 150k.
We also seemed to be moving our wage ceiling up a little so if that’s what he’s asking for I’d give it to him.
I still feel wages are obscene nowadays but that’s quite cheap on going rate at the moment sadly and there are other positions we need to prioritise rather than leaving ourselves potentially short at centre back (such as possibly left back).
Come on stop doing this, I know you're trying to temper the hype a little but there's no need to keep downplaying his performances just to force your point. Foyth has huge potential, it's obvious to everyone - it doesn't matter if he's only played 3/4 senior games, the fact that he's getting these games in the first place, looking the part and called up to the Argentina squad plus MOTM on his intl debut has to be worth something.
As I said I wouldn't actually mind promoting Foyth to 3rd choice if Toby leaves particularly providing we actually recognise Dier to be a CB and not MF, I personally don't think we need another CB.
I think vertonghen will sign
Yeah I thought Kane was on 150k.
We also seemed to be moving our wage ceiling up a little so if that’s what he’s asking for I’d give it to him.
I still feel wages are obscene nowadays but that’s quite cheap on going rate at the moment sadly and there are other positions we need to prioritise rather than leaving ourselves potentially short at centre back (such as possibly left back).
I wonder if Toby and Verts want to make sure they both get the same, and slowing things down?
I thought Kane was on a basic of £150k but with add ons it took it to nearer £200k? Also, isn't Dele now on £150k with add ons? If so, then it's only right that Toby should be on a similar amount IMHO.
Believe me when I say I'd love him to be the next Ledley king (minus injuries)
But for every Ledley there's been hundreds of Gardiners Etc.
I wonder if Toby and Verts want to make sure they both get the same, and slowing things down?
I thought Kane was on a basic of £150k but with add ons it took it to nearer £200k? Also, isn't Dele now on £150k with add ons? If so, then it's only right that Toby should be on a similar amount IMHO.
You have to remember it isn't just about what they bring to the team but also what they bring to the club. Kane brings millions into the club through sponsorship and attention. Our games aren't chosen to be shown around the world because people want to see toby they want to see kane. It's why strikers are more expensive and are paid better.
If we sold toby could we replace him? Yes. If we sold kane it is doubtful.
Remember where we got toby from aswell. He couldn't get into the atletico team so was loaned to southampton. He did well and joined us. Was then put in a team that suited him with an excellent partner he knew well. He has had a big injury and hasn't got back to where he was a couple of seasons ago and as seen in the summer he is not that sought after by the major clubs.
I'd love him to stay and if levy thinks that's a fair wage then great. But no doubt about it that is a lot of money for a defender.
I guess that's fair comment if you want to concentrate on the 2 pen performance rather than the MOM performance straight afterwards.
Pay the man.
It's inevitable.If you do they just keep coming back.