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greaves4FR

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I'm looking on the bright side. There'll never be a better opportunity for a true fan who wishes to retain his sanity to make a break for it.

I 've held my peace up to the last second, oo-er missus a&c, but that's it, I'm outta here. Cold turkey/cockeral for me, no spurs, no football at all until levy has made his profit and fucked off. It's been nice knowing you, and thanks to the many SCers who over the years have provided entertaining company in my despair, but Levy is a disgrace and i'm not prepared to watch my hopes and my club betrayed by him on a regular biannual basis any longer.

Only the blind can now avoid the obvious truth that Levy has for some time had no real ambition to push the club forward, get top 4, or come to that to that to actually get a stadium built. His only ambition is to make as much profit on a sale as possible, which is, he now calculates, is best achieved by investing as little as possible into the club while keeping it poised where it is, a club on the verge of possible success, and so a tempting proposition for a moneybags buyer who wants a quick bang for his buck. He's just pimping us out, paying for a bit of make up and a few cheap knock-offs, while all the while pretending to us we're really a classy proposition and there'll be designer brands just round the corner.

He'll smooth the way to a stadium, so it looks like an easy ride for the punter who he hopes will actually pay for it to be built, but will find any way possible to delay the moment he has to pony up himself, the latest being sacking good architects and scrapping a good design in order to do some more fiddling and not have to put the the job out to tender. Any hare-brained pie-in-the sky scheme that will provide an excuse to delay the process, a much too late olympic stadium bid, american football, will be milked for as long as he can.

The shameless way he shafts managers again and again, persuading them of his ambition,(we've got a long-term plan alright, he just doesn't tell them quite how long-term it is) then failing to back them with the players they need, before sacking them to deflect attention from his own failure is too painful to watch.

You can argue he's a shrewd businessman, a tough deal-maker ( he's not. He's missed so many glaring opportunities to make a modest investment that would have achieved top 4 and a gear-change not just in success on the field but in long-term profitability, and he's now finding himself regularly laughed from the table by every half-way competent football executive from here to south america ) but even if that myth were true, when a chairman/owner's agenda conflicts so obviously with the real interests of a club and it's fans, and is achieved at thier expense then he's nothing more than a two-faced opportunist shyster and should be called out as such.

There has never been any solid evidence for the "be realistic the money just isn't there" argument. All the actual indications point to the money being there but Levy choosing not to risk it. Having had his fingers burned on early attempts to buy success (bent, bentley) he lost his nerve and decided to take the most conservative route to his personal profit, and then only listened to the yes-men like sherwood who told him he didn't need to buy, and has only wanted to spend money on young players who'll turn a profit for him, but aren't ready or good enough to do the job we need.

Any pretence of lack of funds has now been comprehensively blown out of the water now anyway by Everton. If a club who have for years had significantly less resources than us and been models of cautious pragmatism are now outperforming us in the transfer market as well as on the field, (while also planning for a new stadium) then something is badly wrong and there are no more excuses to hide behind.

There will always be suckers, and inveterate optimists who'll fall for this year in year out, and good luck to you. And of course there will now follow a short but nasty interlude from the dear bsodl, who for want of a putin or an IS to swear allegiance to will settle for a second-rate bag-carrier for his uncle Joe, who has extremely grand plans....for his own retirement in florida.

Spurs since 1969, over and out.
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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If it was that easy to get out we would all have done it! But thanks for the interesting read. Thought you made your point well, even if many will jump in and slag it.
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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If it was that easy to get out we would all have done it! But thanks for the interesting read. Thought you made your point well, even if many will jump in and slag it.

who for want of a putin or an IS to swear allegiance to will settle for a second-rate bag-carrier for his uncle Joe, who has extremely grand plans....for his own retirement in florida.

Yeah, brilliantly put.
 

Montasura

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Mar 15, 2008
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You claim to be Spurs since 1969 yet you choose now to bow out, under Levy's reign???

What, did you sleep through the 90s? We're you permanently stoned for the decade. If you think this is the worst period since you started supporting in 1969 then you're an arse. Christ young Spurs fans have it good these days finishing between fourth and sixth. Do you not remember when Neale Fenn was charged with leading our line?

I'm not for one second supporting Levy and his white knuckles, but Jesus what a load of old bilge. You stuck through Alan Sugar but bow out under Levy's watch? Do me a favour.

And stating how long you've been a fan for is irrelevant. You're either a fan or you not. If it's the latter then run along.
 

Lilbaz

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Apr 1, 2005
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AW?

Formerly known as *******Who?
Feb 6, 2006
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I can understand the frustration. I think football is pretty obscene these days. I mean that's obvious but it's gone to a whole new level of ridiculousness in recent times and how the hell do we catch up unless we sell out? We had such a window of opportunity when we got in to the CL a few years back, I can't imagine many thought we weren't on to great things at that stage.

My interest is definitely waning I can admit that. Always a Spurs fan, but fucking hell a meaningful trophy would be nice for a change.
 

m*****73

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Dec 15, 2005
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Only the blind can now avoid the obvious truth that Levy has for some time had no real ambition to push the club forward, get top 4, or come to that to that to actually get a stadium built. His only ambition is to make as much profit on a sale as possible, which is, he now calculates, is best achieved by investing as little as possible into the club while keeping it poised where it is, a club on the verge of possible success, and so a tempting proposition for a moneybags buyer who wants a quick bang for his buck. He's just pimping us out, paying for a bit of make up and a few cheap knock-offs, while all the while pretending to us we're really a classy proposition and there'll be designer brands just round the corner.

The shameless way he shafts managers again and again, persuading them of his ambition,(we've got a long-term plan alright, he just doesn't tell them quite how long-term it is) then failing to back them with the players they need, before sacking them to deflect attention from his own failure is too painful to watch.

As a season ticket holder for over 15yrs, I completely agree with these statements.

I hope you remain an active supporter of our club - and I hope you remain a member of this forum. We need members like you to keep some semblance of balance in the face of increasingly ridiculous arguments delivered in an obnoxious manner by the blind Levy devotees who seem more interested in supporting our bald little businessman than the football club. Sad, but true.
 

Thesoccershrink

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Nov 17, 2004
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is it just Levy that you're really pissed at, or is it the development of the soccer-industrial complex (I'm claiming that as an original unless someone tells me otherwise)? I started supporting Spurs years a few years before you so I am from the same era. I would go to WHL and watch eleven players try to win a game and that was about the only agenda. No one back then would think of touring the USA to boost merchandise sales, no one back then would think of signing an Asian "star" to build a fan base in Korea, no one back then would think that finishing fourth was a huge prize and no one back then could even dream of the money in the game. But money and the soccer-industrial complex rules. Do you think Blatter has the genuine interest of the game at heart? Do you think that the World Cup voting was clean? Don't you think every owner sees it as a business where winning is simply the means to more money? Levy is no different.

Today of all days is the soccer-industrial complex day. Money talks. We are all glued to our "devices" to see who now plays where and the money involved. Years ago, the money would have been irrelevant. But now soccer is a massive global financial enterprise involving major corporations, banks, investors, global tv networks, lawyers, agents, and somewhere on that list are the fans. But the game is now a global business and that's the difference. It's not that Levy didn't sign a striker or sell Townsend, surely it's that the game is no longer just a game.
 

Danners9

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Football is a business, the 'just a game' ship sailed long ago. It's controlled by forces much higher than you or I, has been for a long time but the 000's at the end of pay cheques and transfer fees grew out of all proportion.

However, come Saturday at 3pm (or Sunday at 1.30pm for us), 11 players in white (black or yellow) stride out to represent the club you love.. for 90 minutes you can put aside all the shit that hangs on to the sport and enjoy it for what it is.
 

cliff jones

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Aug 31, 2012
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whilst I agree with most of what's written I cant fall out of love with my club. the lack of hope certainly contributed to my decision to leave the country for asia a decade ago though. but im still up at 3 in the morning trying to find a crappy stream to watch as much as I can. and I will be all out for season tickets when the stadium does finally open its doors. I too hope someone else will be in charge by then, with more of an appetite for moderate risk taking.
 
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