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HildoSpur

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So only Chelsea, Man U, and Man City have the financial clout to buy a player from a bankrupt championship club early?

Other teams seem to have done it. Don't delude yourself. We could have got this over the line a lot earlier but Levy wants to bleed Villa, not due to financial restraints which would be detrimental to our great club, but because he can't help himself.

Yeah let's just overpay for Grealish and then wonder why we don't have the money available to buy the other players we want (which will probably cost much more than Grealish) - other teams have done it because they are much richer than us and can afford to do so - we clearly can't right now.
 

Univarn

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We all know Manager's are the most honest and upstanding members of society. Especially Mourinho who has never lied to the media or fans ever. :rolleyes:

That said unless they buy someone soon I would not be surprised to see Martial stay with Rashford back late from World Cup and Sanchez's whole late return debacle.
 

leesurrey2302

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We just can't be throwing money around
 

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We just can't be throwing money around

I see your "how-shocking-that-the-owner-of-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-club-actually-spends-his-personal-fortune", and I raise you one of these....

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In terms of Martial, it's probably just a poker game from both sides regarding Toby and Martial. Nothing out of the norm.
 

dwaynedibley

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I see your "how-shocking-that-the-owner-of-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-club-actually-spends-his-personal-fortune", and I raise you one of these....

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In terms of Martial, it's probably just a poker game from both sides regarding Toby and Martial. Nothing out of the norm.
I disagree, I think they get Toby and we get the fuck off tablet.
 
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I disagree, I think they get Toby and we get the fuck off tablet.

That may be the case, but where do you draw the line?

If the agent, player and club are all giving us the signal that he's available, it's pretty unanimous that we should try.

If the club start titting us around, do we persist or go with Plan B? Based on a pretty unanimous consensus that can be inferred from posts on here, we shouldn't give up and get the "plan B" player. So, we continue.

If we fail, we fail at least trying. With the things that are coming out of Utd, it doesn't sound to me like we are (for example) not offering enough for martial - it sounds more like they are throwing the toys out of the pram over Toby.

All just speculation, but I'm simply suggesting that it's unusual behaviour for Mourinho to do a 180 on a player so quickly, so it'll be for manipulation I'm sure.
 

leesurrey2302

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I see your "how-shocking-that-the-owner-of-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-club-actually-spends-his-personal-fortune", and I raise you one of these....

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In terms of Martial, it's probably just a poker game from both sides regarding Toby and Martial. Nothing out of the norm.
Looking good ??
 

Thewobbler

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Can't see martial coming. If they do not want toby will levy want to pay the amount that utd would want. it would be over 45m.
 

Spurrific

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I see your "how-shocking-that-the-owner-of-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-company-that-owns-the-club-actually-spends-his-personal-fortune", and I raise you one of these....

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In terms of Martial, it's probably just a poker game from both sides regarding Toby and Martial. Nothing out of the norm.

39m for a painting is still a pretty grotesque display of obscene wealth imo
 

rossdapep

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At least Liverpool splashing all this cash will cause desperation for Mourinho and Woodward. He won't be satisfied with all his transfers yet and I expect them to come back in for Toby very soon, and sooner or later someone is going to have to flinch in regards to Martial.

I wouldn't be surprised if we were waiting for one more approach from them and another discussion about Martial and if that fails we then move on to Zaha.
 

BigPlimpton

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At least Liverpool splashing all this cash will cause desperation for Mourinho and Woodward. He won't be satisfied with all his transfers yet and I expect them to come back in for Toby very soon, and sooner or later someone is going to have to flinch in regards to Martial.

I wouldn't be surprised if we were waiting for one more approach from them and another discussion about Martial and if that fails we then move on to Zaha.
We aren't getting Martial or Zaha. Anyone who has convinced themselves otherwise is going to be sorely disappointed by the next three weeks. I think you may be absolutely right about waiting for one more approach by United before turning our attention elsewhere. We might have been hoping that the player/agent going public would force Woodward's hand. But I would not anticipate that the 'elsewhere' results in anything other than headlines about forthcoming failed approaches for Zaha, Pulisic, and Bailey, followed by deadline day transfers for almost-out-of-contract players or players on relegated teams like Grealish, Pavard, and Salamon Rondon and/or Jay Rodriguez. Expect that our 3-4 'incomings' at the end of the window will look very similar to a list like Grealish, Pavard, Rodriguez and possibly a last minute deal for someone like Lemina from Southampton. Total of about 100-110M pounds spent on those four, with possibly 80M incoming from the sales of Alderweireld, Llorente, N'Koudou and maybe Dembele. Can't see us getting Sissoko or Janssen off the books for any real value, probably a loan for the latter. More than happy to be quoted on all of this when I am proven wrong.
 

dtxspurs

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We aren't getting Martial or Zaha. Anyone who has convinced themselves otherwise is going to be sorely disappointed by the next three weeks. I think you may be absolutely right about waiting for one more approach by United before turning our attention elsewhere. We might have been hoping that the player/agent going public would force Woodward's hand. But I would not anticipate that the 'elsewhere' results in anything other than headlines about forthcoming failed approaches for Zaha, Pulisic, and Bailey, followed by deadline day transfers for almost-out-of-contract players or players on relegated teams like Grealish, Pavard, and Salamon Rondon and/or Jay Rodriguez. Expect that our 3-4 'incomings' at the end of the window will look very similar to a list like Grealish, Pavard, Rodriguez and possibly a last minute deal for someone like Lemina from Southampton. Total of about 100-110M pounds spent on those four, with possibly 80M incoming from the sales of Alderweireld, Llorente, N'Koudou and maybe Dembele. Can't see us getting Sissoko or Janssen off the books for any real value, probably a loan for the latter. More than happy to be quoted on all of this when I am proven wrong.
Would truly be the worst case scenario... Going to give me nightmares tonight just thinking of that.

I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst. It's kind of how I go about most transfer windows.
 

St José Dominguez

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The problem if alternatives are abroad is as the days tick by the more the foreign clubs will see how desperate the English clubs are becoming thus it will push prices up. That's not even taking into consideration fact foreign clubs know they can rinse a bit more out of English clubs due to PL tv deal.

Us and paying over odds just won't happen so it's one hell of a risky game now because foreign clubs don't need to rush, they can chill till end of deadline day as they know they've got an extra 3 weeks to replace a sale.
 
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39m for a painting is still a pretty grotesque display of obscene wealth imo

Not necessarily - I'm sure it's an investment. As an investment, it's no less disgusting than any other inanimate object tbh.


If he'd paid that much for something disposable, like a Cake, I'd agree - but art has always been one of the more tradeable investment commodities since the dawn of modern man.
 

Spurrific

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Not necessarily - I'm sure it's an investment. As an investment, it's no less disgusting than any other inanimate object tbh.


If he'd paid that much for something disposable, like a Cake, I'd agree - but art has always been one of the more tradeable investment commodities since the dawn of modern man.

True - but I actually know Joe Lewis eats paintings. You can connect the dots.
 

Monkey boy

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Not necessarily - I'm sure it's an investment. As an investment, it's no less disgusting than any other inanimate object tbh.


If he'd paid that much for something disposable, like a Cake, I'd agree - but art has always been one of the more tradeable investment commodities since the dawn of modern man.

Would you eat it though?
 

doctor stefan Freud

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We aren't getting Martial or Zaha. Anyone who has convinced themselves otherwise is going to be sorely disappointed by the next three weeks. I think you may be absolutely right about waiting for one more approach by United before turning our attention elsewhere. We might have been hoping that the player/agent going public would force Woodward's hand. But I would not anticipate that the 'elsewhere' results in anything other than headlines about forthcoming failed approaches for Zaha, Pulisic, and Bailey, followed by deadline day transfers for almost-out-of-contract players or players on relegated teams like Grealish, Pavard, and Salamon Rondon and/or Jay Rodriguez. Expect that our 3-4 'incomings' at the end of the window will look very similar to a list like Grealish, Pavard, Rodriguez and possibly a last minute deal for someone like Lemina from Southampton. Total of about 100-110M pounds spent on those four, with possibly 80M incoming from the sales of Alderweireld, Llorente, N'Koudou and maybe Dembele. Can't see us getting Sissoko or Janssen off the books for any real value, probably a loan for the latter. More than happy to be quoted on all of this when I am proven wrong.
I’ll quote you now, sir. I can’t see us settling for the attacking dross outlined in your post. Just doesn’t tally with all sorts of factors considered.
 
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