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Cornpattbuck

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If we do the swap for Martial, get Grealish for ~20m and get someone like Brozovic for 40m, that would be under 50m net spend depending on outgoings (even loan fees would take it under) and I think would be a great transfer window

We're definitely walking a tightrope at the mo, but there's still hope.
 

jay2040

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Nobody knows whats going on tbh. I just dont believe the itk and yet it seems to create this fantastic story full of ups and downs and people interpreting in various ways.
This last week is going to be terrible.

Agree about the lack of clarity on events . If they are prepared to throw Martial into the deal for Toby surely some credit should go to Levy for it .
 

Vulcan10

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Isn't the home grown issue just for CL. Worst case we have to make a tough call and not register someone, could be Big Vic if he's injured, I think Lamella wasn't registered for group stages last year.
It's what 6 games until the Jan window when we can try again to move someone (Sissoko) on if we don't manage it this window.
It's not ideal but doesn't have to be a deal breaker either as a one off.
Perhaps Serge could miss out if necessary and we use Tripps and KWP.
Not ideal for squad harmony perhaps but if we can get top players in we must do it & tidy up the mess at the next opportunity. It's only a short term issue.
We are on the cusp of amazing things, there are ways around home grown surely.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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The need in CM is far greater than a wide forward imo.

Ok I make you right but.........

Sell Toby, loan out GKN & Janssen if selling them isn't an option and give Dembele the move he wants seeing as nonHG needs are required in CM according to people stating this and we have space for Martial.

That doesn't include us having the possibility to move Llorente or Sissoko on.

At the moment the players clearly stifling us are GKN, Janssen, Sissoko &a Llorente as they aren't first XI class. The club need to take a hit on some of these players or hinder the clubs progression this coming season.

Cater for Janssen, GKN, Llorente & Janssen as well as tough it out for the right market value of Alderweireld & Dembele or leave yourself exposed moving forward there's only one answer and that is a no brainer.

If a Martial swap is on the cards you act on it and deal with finding solutions afterwards. If we bring in Martial & another nonHG in it means 4 out of GKN, Janssen, Llorente, Alderweireld Sissoko & Dembele need to be moved on, with 3 of those expiring next season.

It would literally be like missing out on a mansion because you can't shift a caravan
 

Vulcan10

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Will be sad to see Toby go but as others have said it's been expected for a long time. Will particularly miss his passing range.
However Martial will be an exciting signing if we could do it, I might be being blinded by the fact that DT wally on Arsenal tv said Martial is his dream signing and I think us getting him would completely ruin his new manager happiness :)
 

Johnny J

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If they were employees wouldn't criticism of their performance in the press by the management be grounds for constructive dismissal?
Theoretically yes. But there are a variety of factors that make it extraordinarily unlikely that a footballer would claim constructive dismissal in that (or pretty much any) situation.

The main factor being that constructive dismissal compensation is capped, currently at around £80k.
 

teok

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Not as good as the heathrow burger king itk but I'll take it. :)
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Quite right. Either Martial was in a non-Starbucks coffee shop or the whole thing is bollocks. Obviously hoping for the different coffee option lol
First it was the etymological roots of idioms, now the commercial distribution of coffeehouses in the Tottenham area. If anything, this window has been a grooming stable for Mastermind
 

Rout-Ledge

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Theoretically yes. But there are a variety of factors that make it extraordinarily unlikely that a footballer would claim constructive dismissal in that (or pretty much any) situation.

The main factor being that constructive dismissal compensation is capped, currently at around £80k.

Is it not also the case that footballers’ contracts will specifically provide that the coach is entitled to critisise performance in a public forum? It does go with the territory to an extent, unlike in more typical employment relationships.
 

Johnny J

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Is it not also the case that footballers’ contracts will specifically provide that the coach is entitled to critisise performance in a public forum? It does go with the territory to an extent, unlike in more typical employment relationships.
They can do, but generally don't. As you say, it's part of the job, and is understood as such. It's more of a man-management issue.
 

crokey

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If we do the swap for Martial, get Grealish for ~20m and get someone like Brozovic for 40m, that would be under 50m net spend depending on outgoings (even loan fees would take it under) and I think would be a great transfer window

Mate we literally cannot buy 2 non-HG players unless we loan or sell FOUR more on top of Toby.

It's not a case of finances, it's the rules of the Champion's League.

It's looking like we MIGHT get one non-HG, but my money is on zero.
 

GetSpurredOn

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If we do the swap for Martial, get Grealish for ~20m and get someone like Brozovic for 40m, that would be under 50m net spend depending on outgoings (even loan fees would take it under) and I think would be a great transfer window

As much as I rate Martial, without being sure to shift all/most of Nkoudou, Sissoko, Janssen and Llorente, just for squad quota spaces, I'm not sure it's feasible. That's why I think Zaha is more suitable. Agree with the other two though.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Mate we literally cannot buy 2 non-HG players unless we loan or sell FOUR more on top of Toby.

It's not a case of finances, it's the rules of the Champion's League.

It's looking like we MIGHT get one non-HG, but my money is on zero.
Technically we can buy two non h-g players. We can shift some other non h-g players and be strategic on who we register for CL group stages should we not shift the four required. If we can realistically sign two quality non h-g players on long term contracts, it would be ludicrous to not do so if it potentially guaranteed squad progression for the next, say 4-5 years.
 

mill

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Mate we literally cannot buy 2 non-HG players unless we loan or sell FOUR more on top of Toby.

It's not a case of finances, it's the rules of the Champion's League.

It's looking like we MIGHT get one non-HG, but my money is on zero.

Not literally it’s about who we can register
 
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