Anthony Martial

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Mate we literally cannot buy 2 non-HG players unless we loan or sell FOUR more on top of Toby.

It's not a case of finances, it's the rules of the Champion's League.

It's looking like we MIGHT get one non-HG, but my money is on zero.

In the Prem we are 3 nonHG over the quota

Janssen loan, GKN loan or sale, Gazzaniga, Vorm, Sissoko or Llorente shifted with Dembele in his last contractual year.

I genuinely cannot see why the club are so concerned that some of these players won't generate interest. We don't sign anyone until the last month of the window so why isn't there a contingency plan for others to show probably interest in our boys over the next few weeks?

 

[crokey]

Technically we can buy two non h-g players. We can shift some other non h-g players and be strategic on who we register for CL group stages should we not shift the four required. If we can realistically sign two quality non h-g players on long term contracts, it would be ludicrous to not do so if it potentially guaranteed squad progression for the next, say 4-5 years.

I doubt we get the same quality of player this way as if we wait until the deadwood are offloaded first. If we are stuck with Janssen and GKN on 30k a week each, thats 60k p/w we can't spend on a new player.

We would be settling for worse just for the sake of it, instead of waiting until we get that extra cash in.

If you want to lease a new car for £300 a month and can't get shot of your current car worth £100 a month, you don't just go buy a random one for £200 a month. You just wait until you get your full £300.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I doubt we get the same quality of player this way as if we wait until the deadwood are offloaded first. If we are stuck with Janssen and GKN on 30k a week each, thats 60k p/w we can't spend on a new player.

We would be settling for worse just for the sake of it, instead of waiting until we get that extra cash in.

If you want to lease a new car for £300 a month and can't get shot of your current car worth £100 a month, you don't just go buy a random one for £200 a month. You just wait until you get your full £300.

Or to cover the extra cost, I just raise the rent for the lodger and justify it by telling him he can look at my new car once a week

 

[St José Dominguez]

I doubt we get the same quality of player this way as if we wait until the deadwood are offloaded first. If we are stuck with Janssen and GKN on 30k a week each, thats 60k p/w we can't spend on a new player.

We would be settling for worse just for the sake of it, instead of waiting until we get that extra cash in.

If you want to lease a new car for £300 a month and can't get shot of your current car worth £100 a month, you don't just go buy a random one for £200 a month. You just wait until you get your full £300.

Well it depends if you've got a job interview in 4 days and your current £100 a month car's engine has blown up.

 

[jay2040]

I doubt we get the same quality of player this way as if we wait until the deadwood are offloaded first. If we are stuck with Janssen and GKN on 30k a week each, thats 60k p/w we can't spend on a new player.

We would be settling for worse just for the sake of it, instead of waiting until we get that extra cash in.

If you want to lease a new car for £300 a month and can't get shot of your current car worth £100 a month, you don't just go buy a random one for £200 a month. You just wait until you get your full £300.

Agree with you . There are few folk that would do just that though and not wait for the quality!

 

[jay2040]

Well it depends if you've got a job interview in 4 days and your current £100 a month car's engine has blown up.

Get an uber!

 

[crokey]

In the Prem we are 3 nonHG over the quota

Janssen loan, GKN loan or sale, Gazzaniga, Vorm, Sissoko or Llorente shifted with Dembele in his last contractual year.

I genuinely cannot see why the club are so concerned that some of these players won't generate interest. We don't sign anyone until the last month of the window so why isn't there a contingency plan for others to show probably interest in our boys over the next few weeks?

Because that's not how it works?

The only way we can wait and see if we get offers in are if those sales/loans have absolutely no influence on any signings we do make.

The problem here is not Levy, Poch, Joe Lewis or anyone else. It's the window shutting early for us. The only way to play this window is to buy under the assumption that you will make no sales after the close of our window. Now, if we do happen to make some sales then great. But every purchase we make will be under the assumption that we make no further sales, even though as you say that is unlikely.

We contributed massively to fucking ourselves by voting for this change, but even if we voted against it would have still went through so what can you do

 

[crokey]

Well it depends if you've got a job interview in 4 days and your current £100 a month car's engine has blown up.

Unfortunately for us, our engine is shite, but it still works.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

In reality, bringing in Martial and Brozovic for example, on decent length contracts, if take a hit on seeing if Demebele could be part of the Brozovic deal, protect yourself against him going for free, and also free up another HG space. Move Nkoudou and Janssen also, plus Tony as part of the Martial deal, and we'd be a lot closer.
Further to that, the likes of Brozovic and Martial are not likely to be next years Sissoko, Llorente, Janssen and Nkoudou, taking up spaces that we can't shift, they're genuine quality, not punts.
Add in Grealish and we're already closing on the quota increase for 2020.

We're at a stage of gambling, maybe this is Poch's be brave comment. If we wait to move players first, then we run the risk of missing out on squad improvements. If we buy now and overload a little, we still have the option of selling after our window closes. Once it closes, if offers still come in and we haven't already bought, it's too late to make additions then, which means we accept bids and go with a threadbare squad, or have to keep players we'd rather shift just to maintain depth, and then have to try all over again next window. Offers will come in after our window closes, likely offers for someone like Llorente from Spain or Italy. Time to be brave.

 

[Fredo]

I doubt we get the same quality of player this way as if we wait until the deadwood are offloaded first. If we are stuck with Janssen and GKN on 30k a week each, thats 60k p/w we can't spend on a new player.

We would be settling for worse just for the sake of it, instead of waiting until we get that extra cash in.

If you want to lease a new car for £300 a month and can't get shot of your current car worth £100 a month, you don't just go buy a random one for £200 a month. You just wait until you get your full £300.

When you're a billionaire I'm sure you wouldn't be too fussed about losing out on 60k per week especially with all the money coming in from tickets, CL etc.

 

[crokey]

When you're a billionaire I'm sure you wouldn't be too fussed about losing out on 60k per week especially with all the money coming in from tickets, CL etc.

You only become a billionaire by caring more about that 60k per week than you or I do

 

[dfree]

Mate we literally cannot buy 2 non-HG players unless we loan or sell FOUR more on top of Toby.

It's not a case of finances, it's the rules of the Champion's League.

It's looking like we MIGHT get one non-HG, but my money is on zero.

Then sell or loan 4 out? GKN, Janssen, Llorente and Dembele also all potentially gone and it's not a big deal. If you're really gonna turn down a big signing for those players then the club is as big a joke as some say

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Because that's not how it works?

The only way we can wait and see if we get offers in are if those sales/loans have absolutely no influence on any signings we do make.

The problem here is not Levy, Poch, Joe Lewis or anyone else. It's the window shutting early for us. The only way to play this window is to buy under the assumption that you will make no sales after the close of our window. Now, if we do happen to make some sales then great. But every purchase we make will be under the assumption that we make no further sales, even though as you say that is unlikely.

We contributed massively to fucking ourselves by voting for this change, but even if we voted against it would have still went through so what can you do

I agree the window shafts us so we have a decision to make. Take a chance and get players in that are required to challenge or don't and have a season where we stand still or potentially go backwards.

The window is forcing our hand when it comes to this choice and Levy needs to show what kind of minerals he has. We aren't asking for him the jeopardise the club, we are asking him to act on a one off window where he needs to take a chance that teams lie Hoffenheim etc see a benefit in loaning one of our fringe players for a season. These teams also need certain quality in their squads as well, the only difference is that they don't need to act on it until the English clubs have shown their hand. This is 100% the summer where Levy needs to take a risk, if he doesn't we focus on doing our best for a top 4 place and a decent cup run if all goes well

 

[jay2040]

If Utd are willing to throw in Martial then it could be classic Levy tactics. They may be paying us to take him of their hands!

 

[Fredo]

You only become a billionaire by caring more about that 60k per week than you or I do

In terms of owning a football club, Levy is the only billionaire like that compared to the other top 3/4 clubs. Explains why we're the only ones without titles since Levy took over

 

[crokey]

In terms of owning a football club, Levy is the only billionaire like that compared to the other top 3/4 clubs. Explains why we're the only ones without titles since Levy took over

Because we aren't a top 3/4 club

We are a 6th placed club finishing top 3/4, not a top 3/4 club failing to finish 1st.

 

[LeParisien]

In terms of owning a football club, Levy is the only billionaire like that compared to the other top 3/4 clubs. Explains why we're the only ones without titles since Levy took over

Explain why he’s the only one with a bald head ?

 

[sausage]

In terms of owning a football club, Levy is the only billionaire like that compared to the other top 3/4 clubs. Explains why we're the only ones without titles since Levy took over

2008 League Cup is a title? Not a glamorous one, but still...

 

[StanSpur]

It seems too many accept playing in a shiny new stadium and the champions league as an achievement. Last time I checked football is about winning and you don’t get medals for the best stadium.

We won nothing last year with our current team, and whilst we seem to be standing still every other club has strengthened. Should we as fans accept that as we now have extra leg room, a micro brewery and a cheese room!

Maybe but many of us remember bing a regular finisher in the 10th to 16th spots year after year after year. To seeing us docked points and kicked out of the FA cup for financial irregularities. Being excited by strikers like Ronny rosenthal signing for the club. Where we are now to then is chalk and cheese room. What Lewis and levy have done for this club, that was no better than the likes of West Ham, to elevate us to a point where fans get so outraged at a lack of superstar signings is increadible and deserves the upmost respect from all fans, even those that didn’t witness the last 30+ years. I get there is an opportunity and it feels that we may be missing out but we honesty don’t know why things aren’t happening, people have assumed it’s all levy but he has earned our trust and respect so I will defend until we see our team dropping back. In short I couldn’t have dreamed we would be playing the likes of Real Madrid infront of 90000 people at home in my lifetime let alone consider ourselves regulars at the top table so forgive me for seeing the success in our teams achievements. Doesn’t mean I want it to stop

 

[marion52]

I’m sure the players we can’t/won’t register due to HG rules will soon move on if they want to play, their career is short enough without sitting at our training ground and not playing for a season