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WiganSpur

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I think if they want a young coach they've dropped a bollock not going for Vieira. I think he would have been a much more sensible choice than Arteta. He'd really add some steel to them rather than prioritising pretty football all the time.
 
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I think if they want a young coach they've dropped a bollock not going for Vieira. I think he would have been a much more sensible choice than Arteta. I think he'd really add some steel to them rather than prioritising pretty football all the time.
In theory i'd agree but there's no proof for either assertion at this point in terms of what they'd bring to a coaching set-up.

I personally think they're taking a huge gamble in looking at the likes of Arteta/Henry regardless. Especially the latter - Henry has little experience and has no track record at pretty much any level - appreciate everyone starts somewhere but still. On a personal note, i'd love him to taint his rep there and completely fail. I'd be like Mr Burns laughing at that poor crippled boy on the bumper cars if that came to be.

Poch rates Arteta very highly, they go back a long way - and whilst again he has no personal track record, his coaching exposure is significantly ahead of Henry. Would be a huge leap for him though to step in at a top club on his own and would come with significant pressure - i for one think he'll steer clear, if nothing else because of the Moyes following Fergie situation. I think he's smarter than that but we'll see.

Not sure how attainable Eddie Howe is, or someone with similar experience but for that's the direction i'd be looking - a younger manager, fresh ideas but ultimately with his own credentials.
 

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Interviewing Thierry Henry now as another option...
Maybe just have both, Henry as assistant.

Can see there thinking definitely, Arteta seems highly regarded, and he's been learning under pep. Could be a case of getting a new pep/Poch

Hopefully though it's more a Sherwood and Ferdinand chuckle chuckle vision moment
 

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Arteta is on a hiding to nothing no matter how refreshing it is or how good potentially he can be, Arsenal have to get back in the top for and challenge for honours but this is the worst time to do it, there's 6 teams ultimately gunning for the league title and 6 teams gunning for the top 4 and they are all improving, coupled with with a fan base expecting to get back amongst the other 5 it's an extremely difficult job.
 

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Maybe just have both, Henry as assistant.

Can see there thinking definitely, Arteta seems highly regarded, and he's been learning under pep. Could be a case of getting a new pep/Poch

Hopefully though it's more a Sherwood and Ferdinand chuckle chuckle vision moment
The thing that came to mind with Henry is yeah I reckon he’d be a good option, but Vieira is already a little peed (reportedly) as he felt like he was a second option and wonder if Henry would end up feeling the same.

Seems like Arteta is the number 1 candidate and they’re just going through the motions interviewing the other ones.

But I’m just speculating really.
 

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Arteta is on a hiding to nothing no matter how refreshing it is or how good potentially he can be, Arsenal have to get back in the top for and challenge for honours but this is the worst time to do it, there's 6 teams ultimately gunning for the league title and 6 teams gunning for the top 4 and they are all improving, coupled with with a fan base expecting to get back amongst the other 5 it's an extremely difficult job.
Yeah Arsenal do I feel have a decent squad, but as you said you then have to take into consideration that most of the teams up there with them have even better squads now.
 

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The thing that came to mind with Henry is yeah I reckon he’d be a good option, but Vieira is already a little peed (reportedly) as he felt like he was a second option and wonder if Henry would end up feeling the same.

Seems like Arteta is the number 1 candidate and they’re just going through the motions interviewing the other ones.

But I’m just speculating really.
Isn't it now a requirement for teams to interview at least one person who isn't white, when looking for a new manager?
 

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I think Arsenal are being very astute in appointing Arteta.

a) Avoids the Fergie-Moyes problem
b) May replicate the Wenger experience if they're very lucky and Arteta is as sharp as everyone says
c) Lowers expectations & hype, taking pressure off everyone at the club
d) Suits their modest transfer budget for next season (Arteta will demand less than Allegri etc. would)
e) Still leaves open the opportunity to appoint a Galactico manager next season if it doesn't work out, and that manager won't be "Wenger's replacement", but Arteta's, which gets back to point a. above.

If all that logic is sound, Arteta is a better option than Viera or Henry. Latter are much higher profile, and would be seen as a continuation of Wengerism in a way Arteta won't. Viera or Henry would raise hype & expectation, and both would be under much bigger pressure than Arteta. Both would face endless questions about Wenger, and constantly be compared to him.

Arse getting this right IMO.
 

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I think Arsenal are being very astute in appointing Arteta.

a) Avoids the Fergie-Moyes problem
b) May replicate the Wenger experience if they're very lucky and Arteta is as sharp as everyone says
c) Lowers expectations & hype, taking pressure off everyone at the club
d) Suits their modest transfer budget for next season (Arteta will demand less than Allegri etc. would)
e) Still leaves open the opportunity to appoint a Galactico manager next season if it doesn't work out, and that manager won't be "Wenger's replacement", but Arteta's, which gets back to point a. above.

If all that logic is sound, Arteta is a better option than Viera or Henry. Latter are much higher profile, and would be seen as a continuation of Wengerism in a way Arteta won't. Viera or Henry would raise hype & expectation, and both would be under much bigger pressure than Arteta. Both would face endless questions about Wenger, and constantly be compared to him.

Arse getting this right IMO.
What makes you think that?

Have you ever watched AFTV? ;)
 

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In theory i'd agree but there's no proof for either assertion at this point in terms of what they'd bring to a coaching set-up.

I personally think they're taking a huge gamble in looking at the likes of Arteta/Henry regardless. Especially the latter - Henry has little experience and has no track record at pretty much any level - appreciate everyone starts somewhere but still. On a personal note, i'd love him to taint his rep there and completely fail. I'd be like Mr Burns laughing at that poor crippled boy on the bumper cars if that came to be.

Poch rates Arteta very highly, they go back a long way - and whilst again he has no personal track record, his coaching exposure is significantly ahead of Henry. Would be a huge leap for him though to step in at a top club on his own and would come with significant pressure - i for one think he'll steer clear, if nothing else because of the Moyes following Fergie situation. I think he's smarter than that but we'll see.

Not sure how attainable Eddie Howe is, or someone with similar experience but for that's the direction i'd be looking - a younger manager, fresh ideas but ultimately with his own credentials.
If they were going for a young manager, surely EH would be a safer shout than Arteta?
 

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If it’s Arteta with a £50m war chest they are in the wilderness for a good few years imo. Only thing that may save them is if their kids really kick on.
 

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I think Arsenal are being very astute in appointing Arteta.

a) Avoids the Fergie-Moyes problem - Not sure if it does address it as Moyes himself was inadequate and under qualified for a role of such. If they had moved directly to a big name like Mourinho or Klopp I think things would have worked out much better. That's what Arsenal need now before they fall further behind.
b) May replicate the Wenger experience if they're very lucky and Arteta is as sharp as everyone says - They could get lucky but Arteta hasn't been through the rigours of coaching day in day out, man-managing, leading, integrating new players, making other decisions, not to mention the pressures that come with this, all of these things add up and sharp minds don't always necessarily make great managers - Carlos Quiroz
c) Lowers expectations & hype, taking pressure off everyone at the club - Some may have lower expectations and I have heard a few say they'd be patient but we all know that when results spiral badly, fans can't remain patient and start getting agitated. Look at some of the behaviour on here these last few weeks.
d) Suits their modest transfer budget for next season (Arteta will demand less than Allegri etc. would) I agree
e) Still leaves open the opportunity to appoint a Galactico manager next season if it doesn't work out, and that manager won't be "Wenger's replacement", but Arteta's, which gets back to point a. above. - This depends on how far they fall off track. What if they finish mid table? What if their budget is still modest? Big managers won't touch it because they'll deem it to be too much of a long-term project and they'll want to be competing with Pep, Jose, etc on a more level playing field. They could find themselves having to continuously take chances with up coming managers and it's not easy - we should know.

If all that logic is sound, Arteta is a better option than Viera or Henry. Latter are much higher profile, and would be seen as a continuation of Wengerism in a way Arteta won't. Viera or Henry would raise hype & expectation, and both would be under much bigger pressure than Arteta. Both would face endless questions about Wenger, and constantly be compared to him.

Arse getting this right IMO.
 

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If it’s Arteta with a £50m war chest they are in the wilderness for a good few years imo. Only thing that may save them is if their kids really kick on.
When I heard that I was laughing. 50m to get back in the hunt wont happen unless he does what we do and pulls some shrewd signings off.
 
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