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LSUY

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BBC: 'Celtic would allow Arsenal to speak to Brendan Rodgers.'

God I've never asked you for anything so please make this happen.
 

pffft

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They're never going to appoint Campbell in a million years, but if there is a chance they might go for a club legend, I would really like to see:



Obviously the moves that wooed Caprice. Well, either that or she completely misinterpreted the Donkey nickname.
 

Pellshek

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Wenger was a brilliant and revolutionary manager in English football. Arsenal were lucky to have him, even if he outstayed his natural tenure by several seasons.

Fingers crossed their transition to a new era is as tricky as Manchester United's has been.
 

WiganSpur

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Wenger was a brilliant and revolutionary manager in English football. Arsenal were lucky to have him, even if he outstayed his natural tenure by several seasons.

Fingers crossed their transition to a new era is as tricky as Manchester United's has been.
I can't see that unfortunately. There's massive differences between the two cases.

Ferguson had instilled a winning culture right up until he left. That's been lost at Arsenal for over 10 years now. They've got really good attacking players and they're underperforming at the moment. You could argue United were over performing in 2013.

It's bad news for us, because the only way is up for Arsenal now, barring an absolutely catastrophic appointment. There's a chance there could be some early turbulence, but they'll definitely be more competitive than they are now within 2 years.
 

gp13tot

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Surprised people are desperate for goon to get rodgers. I think if he was supported in the transfer market within 2 years he would have them right up there as his sides play good football and he would just need to strengthen the defence. Some attacking players are already in place

I for one rate him quite highly, would rather they go for benitez who i think would flop there and the goons would hate his brand of football.
 

Gassin's finest

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Bleh... Had 10 years of success because he inherited the best back 4+keeper in England, Denis Bergkamp and Marc Overmars. Then spent shitloads on Viera, Petit, Henry and Pires. Once that lot packed in or fucked off they stopped. The last 10 years have been an ever declining series of lols.
 
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I can't see that unfortunately. There's massive differences between the two cases.

Ferguson had instilled a winning culture right up until he left. That's been lost at Arsenal for over 10 years now. They've got really good attacking players and they're underperforming at the moment. You could argue United were over performing in 2013.

It's bad news for us, because the only way is up for Arsenal now, barring an absolutely catastrophic appointment. There's a chance there could be some early turbulence, but they'll definitely be more competitive than they are now within 2 years.
I’m sorry but I don’t agree. Arsenal have been leaking talent for years and have a squad which needs a serious overhaul. United had the same issue, but prices were lower, and in the inflated market where were quoted £50m for Sess and Van dijk was £75m, it’s going to cost a bomb to fix the Arse. If you take the 8?players who are about to be out of contract or leave, and budget for replacement first team players at £35m-£40m each, you’ve got £280m in outlay. If you go for youth, you might need to wait for them to come good, and at £22m a player it still might cost you £180m.

Unless the scum have an amazing group of youth coming through, they are in for some difficult transitional seasons.

Good. Bloody good.
 

WiganSpur

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I’m sorry but I don’t agree. Arsenal have been leaking talent for years and have a squad which needs a serious overhaul. United had the same issue, but prices were lower, and in the inflated market where were quoted £50m for Sess and Van dijk was £75m, it’s going to cost a bomb to fix the Arse. If you take the 8?players who are about to be out of contract or leave, and budget for replacement first team players at £35m-£40m each, you’ve got £280m in outlay. If you go for youth, you might need to wait for them to come good, and at £22m a player it still might cost you £180m.

Unless the scum have an amazing group of youth coming through, they are in for some difficult transitional seasons.

Good. Bloody good.
2 or 3 new contracts later there's nothing for them to panic about.

They need 2 CBs, a DM and possibly a wide player. Work to do but I reckon within 2 years they'll have everything sorted.
 
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2 or 3 new contracts later there's nothing for them to panic about.

They need 2 CBs, a DM and possibly a wide player. Work to do but I reckon within 2 years they'll have everything sorted.
Then we better get a move on and win stuff so we can gazump them when they try and sign people and use the line “were the biggest club in London...”
 

rossdapep

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2 or 3 new contracts later there's nothing for them to panic about.

They need 2 CBs, a DM and possibly a wide player. Work to do but I reckon within 2 years they'll have everything sorted.
Not as simple as that though. We've seen this exact scenario work against us many many times.

You think you are four or five players away from having the squad you need, then the following happens.

- Star player wants out and forces a move away.
- Other big players pass their peak - Ozil, Aubemeyang, Mkhitaryan all approaching 30 and will need replacing in the next 2-3 years
- Potential signings choose other clubs who are better positioned for success.
- Young players go to clubs who are more stable and have a manager who has more control at his current club.

Two years later and you are still two years away.

They HAVE TO get the next appointment right because they could quite easily fall further away, once you start falling behind you are forever catching up, unless you are able to bring in the RIGHT MANAGER & RIGHT PLAYERS
 

nailsy

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Good post...I strongly suspect it's the latter....if they lose then there's no more "Wenger Out" chants and the guy goes quietly....it's a win/win situation for him....cleverly timed move. :sneaky:(y)

Its not really cleverly timed if its Three years too late.
 

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#Respect

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BringBack_leGin

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Bleh... Had 10 years of success because he inherited the best back 4+keeper in England, Denis Bergkamp and Marc Overmars. Then spent shitloads on Viera, Petit, Henry and Pires. Once that lot packed in or fucked off they stopped. The last 10 years have been an ever declining series of lols.

Load of cobblers. When he signed Vieira in 96, aged 20, Vieira had flopped massively at Milan. The fee was £3.5m. For context, we spent £750k more on Ruel Fox a year previously. He bought Petit in 97 for £2.5m. Half a season later we spent the same fee on Mousa Saïb. Wenger also bought Anelka that summer for under £1m, while we were spending a then record £6m on a knackered Les Ferdinand. That was £750k short of the £6.75m Wenger spent that summer on Overmars (so no, he didn’t inherit him). More context: in years leading up to that summer in 97 we also spent £3m on Iversen and £4.5m on Armstrong.

Wenger inherited the defence and Bergkamp, but he added Petit, Vieira, Anelka and Overmars for a very modest combined fee compared to what we were spending to finish mid table. Then they went and did the double.

Fast forward to 2001, Petit Overmars and Anelka have left for massive profits and been replaced by recent Juve flop Henry, barely known Ljungberg, French international Pirès, a club record £13m Wiltord (we spent £11m on Rebrov that summer), Judas on a free, and Van Bronckhorst from the SPL. Ashley Cole had also broken in. The season following, another double and a significant net profit on player turnover. The same core of players would go unbeaten two seasons later, winning a third title, and reach the Champions League final (minutes away from victory) in another two seasons.

And as for inheriting a great core of players, those players finished 12th, then 5th, in the two seasons before his appointment.

Wenger may have lost his way in the last few years but make no mistake about it, his first decade was phenomenal, he brought Arsenal the most success they’ve ever enjoyed, playing the best football they’d ever played (and probably the best football in the league). He did that while being outspent dramatically by United but also by Newcastle first, then Chelsea, and even Leeds at one point. He has been a great manager and there’s much more argument that he’s been the best manager this league has seen than can legitimately be made for either of Mourinho or Guardiola. Only Ferguson has been more impressive.

Any Spurs fan who doesn’t wish we had hired Wenger instead of Gerry Francis is lying to themselves.

Oh, and as for ten years of ever declining series of LOLS, in that time they’ve qualified for the champions league 8 times and won three FA cups. We’ve qualified 3 times (soon to be four) and won nothing. Declining? Yes. Series of LOLS? That’s just ridiculous, talksportesque nonsense.
 
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Ionman34

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I can't see that unfortunately. There's massive differences between the two cases.

Ferguson had instilled a winning culture right up until he left. That's been lost at Arsenal for over 10 years now. They've got really good attacking players and they're underperforming at the moment. You could argue United were over performing in 2013.

It's bad news for us, because the only way is up for Arsenal now, barring an absolutely catastrophic appointment. There's a chance there could be some early turbulence, but they'll definitely be more competitive than they are now within 2 years.
Depends on their board really. Their squad is a bit of a mess, to compete in 2 years will require some serious outlay.
 
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