AVB Interview

[StuckinPoland]

in my opinion, AVB made three idiotic decisions.

1 - he allowed van der Vaart to leave. yes, we got good money, but had AVB categorically said he wanted him, he'd have stayed.
2 - he let BAE go on loan WITHOUT signing a replacement. as soon as Rose got injured, we were left with Naughton at LB.
3 - he ostracised our highest earner Adebayor when we couldn't score a goal for love nor money.

i think it was the last decision that really ended things. i think Levy wanted him to involve Adebayor with the first team more and AVB refused. because of that disagreement, it was agreed we should part company.

had AVB been a little bit more conciliatory and involved Adebayor, he'd still be in charge now. i am convinced of it. plus, had Eriksen not been injured for most of the time he was with us under AVB, i'm sure we'd have got better results.

 

[mpickard2087]

This isn't even what he's saying. He's saying he was promised some good players, yet within two months of joining 2/3 of our best players were sold and replaced by players he didn't want.

And I refuse to believe Moutinho not being a Spurs player is anything other than a Levy last-minute clusterfuck. Heard the "too difficult" story too many times for it to always be everyone else. Shame because I'm certain with him we'd have been top four.

I fail to believe that he was promised the 10 or so £15/20/25m players that were by all accounts on his list that he wanted to bring in. @SpurSince57 help me out and produce that list one more time would you please, just so we can go through the absurdity of it.

Dembele instead of Moutinho he has reason to be aggrieved (though at the time it wasn't quite sure whether the player himself was that bothered about coming, we had to really work on him...) but the rest of his 'wants' were delusional.

 

[Mullers]

Well that's all well and good, shame someone else in the market wanted to pay double the price and triple the wages we were going to pay for him and blew us out of the water.

I would question whether we moved early enough and whether Levy was really serious about getting him.

 

[Donki]

How much did we spend on transfers when we sold Bale?

They wouldnt be on anywhere near the wages them 3 players would be on. Lets not forget Willian was a nearly done deal till he chose the Chavs over us.

 

[eddiebailey]

At least there is absolute confirmation now it was mutual consent and there isn't a need to speculate.
The board shouldn't have promised him those players if they knew it wasn't possible to get them and shouldn't propose he get a fourth place when they can't afford him the players to do so.

He doesn't say that the club promised him anyone. He says that they set him the challenge of improving theor position (we had finished fourth). Then Modric left, which made that more challenging. It was at that point he identified a list of tragets who would have cost several fortunes and shattered our wage structure, and who for the most part were not interested in joining us...

 

[Jamturk]

Jol, Ramos, AvB same story coming out that our chairman is a lying, cheating, scheming snake.

You think he does'nt lie to players?

You think he does'nt lie to us the supporters?

Its like a cancer, spreads through the club

And we wonder why we have under-performance on the pitch.

 

[tiger666]

I would question whether we moved early enough and whether Levy was really serious about getting him.

If we moved earlier, so would Chelsea. If they wanted him, they would get him. It's that simple.

 

[Donki]

I would question whether we moved early enough and whether Levy was really serious about getting him.

Mullers you will be tellign us next that Levy called up Roman and told him to go in for Willian.

 

[millsey]

Nice to see my 'mutual agreement' belief confirmed...

The rest just proves the guy was in La-La land. That list of players he wanted, of which SS57 reels off quite regularly, was even longer than that and would have run to hundreds of millions of pounds, before we even got to wages for them all. He just didn't get it.

This is important. We aren't a club who can afford those players. We tried for Willian and Oscar and they chose Chelsea too. What's strange is we were led to believe baldini was a choice of avb as dof and we all thought they got on v well.
I imagine any contract hush hush has now ended so I expect more to come from avb

 

[mpickard2087]

I would question whether we moved early enough and whether Levy was really serious about getting him.

No iirc correctly we were in talks to get him for something like £12m, then Chelsea came along with double the offer, double the wages and that was that.

What should be scrutinised on Oscar is that there were strong rumours that 12-18 months previous Broomfield or someone had made the club known he was available for some ridiculously low fee, yet at that point (this was Redknapp era) we didn't want him.

 

[E17yid]

Moutinho was a Levy fuck up but it's a bit harsh to blame Levy for not getting the other names he mentions in that interview

 

[Database]

Jol, Ramos, AvB same story coming out that our chairman is a lying, cheating, scheming snake.

You think he does'nt lie to players?

You think he does'nt lie to us the supporters?

Its like a cancer spreads through the club

And we wonder why we have underperformance on the pitch.

That's so true..

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I fail to believe that he was promised the 10 or so £15/20/25m players that were by all accounts on his list that he wanted to bring in. @SpurSince57 help me out and produce that list one more time would you please, just so we can go through the absurdity of it.

Dembele instead of Moutinho he has reason to be aggrieved (though at the time it wasn't quite sure whether the player himself was that bothered about coming, we had to really work on him...) but the rest of his 'wants' were delusional.

That being the case, appointing him as manager in the first place must rank as gross negligence

I cannot believe that they wouldn't have discussed signings and other stuff before he was offered the job.

 

[millsey]

Surely the only news in this interview is baldini is leaving spurs.
I'm sure avb has contacts at the club still and baldini looks to be shown the door

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Yeah fair enough but we aren't a club who can attract the best players unfortunately, Heck I could say Messi , Ronaldo, Zlatan and Pogba are the best for the club doesn't mean I should be a football manager.

Willian, Oscar and Moutinho cost a combinded total of about £70 million quid plus good knows what on wages.

I thought Willian and Moutinho were dead certs until Levy did a Levy

 

[millsey]

Moutinho was a Levy fuck up but it's a bit harsh to blame Levy for not getting the other names he mentions in that interview

I think the 3rd party crap was the fuck up again

 

[Mullers]

They wouldnt be on anywhere near the wages them 3 players would be on. Lets not forget Willian was a nearly done deal till he chose the Chavs over us.

We were close to doing a deal *cough* on Moutinho so wages were possible there, Oscar was possible too he wasn't as well known as Willian. Leandro fuck I can't really bare to discuss that one but Levy should have just explained that Inter's chairman is an even bigger tosser than he is. Hulk was the other one AVB wanted Hulk I already said I don't rate him but AVB did and he wanted to come here. Would he be on even bigger wages than Ade I don't think so.
In any case if we can't afford these players and their wages then don't bullshit the man and style it out like we're going to challenge for top honours.
Be honest about what we can afford.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

If Levy did promise that he could buy big players then that is not fair on AVB. Although realistically Moutinho at the price Porto wanted was always going to be difficult. Plus he has since flopped at Monaco so maybe the right decision.

Leandro was always massively overpriced and third party issues well documented.

Willian and Oscar deals were simply hijacked by Chelsea. And there was no way we could compete.

Joao Moutinho,
Willian
Oscar
Leandro Damiao.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Surely the only news in this interview is baldini is leaving spurs.
I'm sure avb has contacts at the club still and baldini looks to be shown the door

If what is being said in the other thread is true about Levy taking a step back then we could be in for quite a bit of restructuring, have we got a chief executive, along the lines of David Gill at United etc etc?

 

[Donki]

I thought Willian and Moutinho were dead certs until Levy did a Levy

I thoughth that Willian simply chose the Chavs over us when they came in and Moutinho the goal posts were moved (agent fees etc). The thing is no one knows what happened. Facts are we were clearly in for both players but both players ended up at clubs with infinitely more resopurces than us. For me that says alot.