Ballon d’Or 2017 nominees

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  1. Shadydan

    Shadydan Well-Known Member

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    It's a popularity contest.
     
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  2. Gassin's finest

    Gassin's finest Donne moi la balle, et je fais le reste...

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    It's just names that the fat bastards at FIFA/UEFA can remember...
     
  3. sebo_sek

    sebo_sek Well-Known Member

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    The longer he is ignored, the longer we can enjoy his play in a Spurs shirt.
     
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  4. mark_2017

    mark_2017 Well-Known Member

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    He might be going to the world cup though, which won't help matters.
     
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  5. sebo_sek

    sebo_sek Well-Known Member

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    Him for Denmark and us are two different galaxies. Like Kane for England.
     
  6. DanielCHillier

    DanielCHillier Well-Known Member

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    I know he plays for Arsenal, but I still think it's a joke that Sanchez isn't on there, when Coutinho and Benzema are. His numbers last season were pretty incredible and he won his team the Copa America.
     
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  7. kaz Hirai

    kaz Hirai Well-Known Member

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    Eriksen isn't flashy enough to make these lists.

    No crazy hair style
    No music videos with stormyz
    Playing for two unglamours teams in FIFA eyes, No film cameos etc
     
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  8. nailsy

    nailsy SC Supporter

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    It's nothing to do with them any more. The shortlist is picked by FranceFootball magazine and then the voting is by football journalists.

    http://www.totalsportek.com/news/ballon-dor-voting-process-rules-changes/


    It's probably good news for Kane that no other Tottenham players are on the list as there's no chance of splitting the vote with another one of our players.
     
  9. Flynn

    Flynn SC Supporter

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    So we need Hugo and Sissoko to press the flesh on this one.
     
  10. Bus-Conductor

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    As everyone else has mentioned, I don't really get what Coutinho's doing on that list and Eriksen surely should be?

    Form our perspective I don't really understand people suggesting Alderweireld ahead of Vertonghen who was outstanding for us last season, and in this calendar year, better than Alderweireld IMO.
     
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  11. rabbikeane

    rabbikeane Well-Known Member

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    Both are excellent for their national team now. Kane done just as well for England as Spurs in 2017. With 7 goals in 6 caps.
    While the Danes are talking up Eriksen as their Messi after his 12 goals in last 13 caps. They are noticed, no doubt about it. Possibly the overall player of the entire uefa wc qualification.
     
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  12. BringBack_leGin

    BringBack_leGin I BELIEVE

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    Well done Messi. Undoubtedly the greatest of all time and in my opinion should be this years Ballon d'or, he's been consistently brilliant all year but has been in a below par Barcelona side and a below par Argentina side. It's meant to be a individual honour after all.

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ecuador-vs-argentina/report/349983

    That said, Kane deserves to be top 3 for what he's done with us, but he won't be, ironically because he's done it for us and not a perceived glamour club.
     
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  13. LeSoupeKitchen

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    How does this work? Is it based on performances in a calendar year and the list is whittled down as the best players come to the fore? Or is it really irritating like the Premier League player of the year where everything is horribly delayed and goes to a player that peaked a number of months before the announcement?
     
  14. Shadydan

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    It's based over the calendar year but the winner always seems to go to a team who picked up awards in May.
     
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  15. TaoistMonkey

    TaoistMonkey What would Phil Dunphy do? Staff

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    I don't know why they bother with the list. Its going to be Messi, Ronaldo & Neymar.

    This is just a popularity contest
     
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  16. talkshowhost86

    talkshowhost86 Mod-Moose Staff

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    To be fair they are the best three players in the world at the moment.

    I agree it's boring, but it's hard to argue that they don't deserve the regular accolades.
     
  17. TaoistMonkey

    TaoistMonkey What would Phil Dunphy do? Staff

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    Are their 2017 stats better than Kanes though?
     
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    I'm one of Harry's biggest fans and for me he is World class but still not sure he's had as much impact as those 3 in the year - but top 5 - probably! By the way, Messi last night - he continues to set the bar for genius on the pitch and imho GOAT!
     
  19. talkshowhost86

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    I know in terms of purely goals Kane is up there but I still don't think he has the all round impact on games that those three have.

    Neymar would have been the one I'd have questioned previously, but since going to PSG he's looked pretty special.

    Don't get me wrong it's not a criticism of Kane because they are three pretty exceptional talents, and outside of those three there aren't many players I'd have instead of Kane in world football at the moment.

    I just think it's important to acknowledge that whilst it's boring as balls that Messi or Ronaldo are the only two to ever win the Ballon D'or, there is a good reason for that.
     
  20. BringBack_leGin

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    Maybe not the all round impact of Messi or Neymar, but I'd say he is far more involved in overall play than Ronaldo, who these days uses his energy economically.

    Also, Neymar has spent half the calendar year in a second tier league, surely this should count against him?
     
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