Ben Davies - Player watch

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  1. Armstrong_11

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    I agree he didn't have a good game. But IMO he was played out of position. He is a DL, or the Center left if playing in a back 3. He isn't a wing back, he is a much more defensive player then Rose. Who we all know was a left winger when he started.

    thought he tried, and I think I would rather he stay as back up to Toby if we are sticking with 5-2-2-1 (or 3-4-2-1 or 3-2-2-2-1). That the position he excels in.

    Think we shouldn't be too too harsh on a player who is played out of position.
     
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    He was the player I have 'adopted' over the past 2 seasons because I thought he was unfairly criticised by the fans just because he isn't Rose. I still think he's a good LB but I think we may need to replace him for a quicker LB for when we play 3 at the back.
     
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  3. hughy

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    I feel sorry for him, because he wasn't signed with the purpose of playing LWB. After a fairly solid season last year when called upon, he's found it difficult recently when asked to adapt to our current style. Not his fault, and he certainly isn't a bad LB, just one who will find it very difficult being at a club who clearly don't suit his style.

    With Dier's current form and Poch's reluctance to play Wimmer I wouldn't be at all opposed to playing him, Jan and Toby in a back 3 when Rose is back however.
     
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    Davies. You're welcome old bean.
     
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  6. midge

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    if we play 3-5-2 we should play George as LWB in the absence of Rose , together with Walker as LWB

    If we play 4-2-3-1 we should play Davis and Trippier

    It gives us more balance this way
     
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  7. Everlasting Seconds

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    Never understood the signing, been saying since he signed that I wouldn't mind selling him, thought he was pushed on us because we really wanted Vorm, can't imagine why we wouldn't find a more versatile back up LB to suit our various systems better and generally think he is disposable.
     
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    We weren't playing the way we are now when we bought him
     
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    That is true. You are right. And since we bought him, Rose has especially advanced in abilities Davies simply does not have.
     
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    he too predictable. I could have defended against him last night his crossing is from too far back and he cant take on a player. he goes backward or infield too often and as soon as son came on (until he decided to move across the field.) we instantly looked more dangerous. This isn't knee jerk. and he is ample as backup but we have moved on.
     
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  11. LukaKranjcar

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    The problem with Davies imo isnt so much that he isnt suited to playing LWB, thats no surprise. Hes never been famed for his physical abilities, or his intent to drive forward etc and was purchased as a prospect after having a good solid season at LB for Swansea.

    Ben is a solid defensive LB, but that is literally it. The moment he has to overlap and look to attack is where it all unravels for him. He's too easy to defend against and is too easy to attack. There was a couple of times last night for example where Moses ran him from the half way line right back to the edge of our box and he was on the back foot the entire time. He lacks that intensity in his game.

    I think he'll have a very good Premier league career and will go on to be highly thought of elsewhere. Decent, honest player that Tottenham Hotspur have simply outgrown.
     
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    I think that's the crux of it tbh. Davies would look far better in a side where he does not have to provide the width for attacking purpose. Rose I think would look far less of a player if you restricted his forward play. He'll do well elsewhere but he just doesn't fit in our set up now where as Rose epitomises it.
     
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    Oh, by all means, I do not mean to come across as thinking that Davies is a bad footballer in absolute terms. On the contrary, he plays for a national team of some recent, moderat success. However, I almost feel a bit sad for him, he is wasted with us. Would fit in well at several upper-half PL clubs.
     
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    Limited footballer, not good enough for us even as a squad player in my opinion. Whenever he's played (and I didn't see the match last night) he's been error prone, hesitant, poor in possession and a bit of a liability. He's also really poor in the air and seems to constantly lose his aerial battles, often leading to us conceding.
     
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    Surely yesterday was proof of poch not fancying Davies as he rather vertonghen at lb than Davies when we went 4231
     
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  17. Armstrong_11

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    He looks petrified on the pitch, lacks self belief.
     
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    I think he's become a worse FB since playing as a CB for Wales regularly. Looks to tuck in way too
    much because he's worked out that it protects his lack of pace.
     
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    Had a very good season last year (up until march at least), but have hasn't been able to keep that standard this season. That being said, much of the stick he gets these days is because he can't replicate what Rose does in a 3-4-2-1, or generally scare the crap out of the opponent like Rose does. It doesn't mean he's bad.

    He's played 20 games this season vs. 21 for Rose, so Poch obviously thinks he's a able deputy. He's also the same age now that Rose was when the latter signed a five year contract before the 14/15 season, and large parts of our fan base went rull retard. So I'd say it's possible for Davies to up his level again.

    Then again, he has two years left on his deal this summer, and I guess it'll come down to wether or not Poch wants a player more in the Rose ilk as deputy.
     
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