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thebenjamin

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Jul 1, 2008
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Even aside of our existing confidence of an impending turnabout, there's also about 40 million new year reasons why relegation isn't even being thought about.


Mate no player worth his salt will join us in January if things remain as they are, except on short term deals or loans. Anyone would rightly wait till the summer.

We had our chance at a transfer window, and we royally fvcked it. Every October we're desperately looking to January to save our season and its absolutely pathetic.

If relegation isn't being thought about then everyone involved with coaching this team needs to either be given a serious slap, or fired. For someone who's supposed to have contacts at the club to say that, shocks me and scares me silly. We are the worst team in the Premiership. Fact. Hull sat back and invited us on and we had nothing. We cannot score. We cannot keep clean sheets. We can't fight, we can't grind out results. The manager has been consummately shown up in the Premiership time after time, and looks woefully out of his depth. He cannot motivate them, he cannot organise them.

If they do not know the rest of the season is about nothing else than scraping our way to 40 points then I suspect we'll be down by Christmas.
 

SpurSince57

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What I want to know is how has Venerbles managed to avoid being kicked out of football. He is dodgier than 'onest 'arry Redknapp

Dug up from Simon Jordan's Observer column a couple of years ago:

None of this is meant to underestimate the harm malign agents can do, or to undermine Newell’s basic complaint about the sheer volume of them constantly trying to find a way through. To know what they’re capable of when a club opens up, you really had to be a Palace fan back in the late 90s when Mark Goldberg’s la-la land ownership took the club into administration. Agents were crawling all over him like engorged maggots.
In 12 months, Goldberg lost £1m on agent fees. He paid Boca Juniors £187,000 for defender Walter del Rio, plus fees to multiple agents totalling £450,000. It then emerged that the player had been available on a free, and that documents showing his registration with Boca had been forged by a third party in Argentina. The money was never traced, and the player moved on after one league start.
He paid Israeli club Maccabi Nevealon £800,000 for unknown defender David Amsalem, via a third party. Only £11,600 ever arrived at Maccabi Nevealon, and the player was released after six starts. He signed Chinese players Fan Zhiyi and Sun Jihai - now at Manchester City - for £1m, and only £600,000 arrived in China. He signed two bewildered wonderkids at the same time as Del Rio - Pablo Rodrigues and Cristian Ledesma from Argentinos Juniors - who went home before kicking a ball. The money paid for them wasn’t traced.
The High Court ruled that all those deals were a result of corrupt agents and, to paraphrase a bit, a stunningly naive owner. But the manager at the time - the man who recommended all 13 incoming transfers to Goldberg - was absolved. As the report put it: ‘The High Court ruled that Terry Venables was entirely innocent of any wrong-doing.’

Which suggests the old spiv is very good at covering his tracks.
 

yiddotilidie

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Mar 23, 2005
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Or three wins on the spin and we're back in UEFA contention. Remember how quickly Ramos pulled us out of the relegation zone when he took over at the end of October last year.

But when you have Berbs and Keane spearheading your attack it's a different situation to the one we're in now.
 

sxboy

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Dug up from Simon Jordan's Observer column a couple of years ago:



Which suggests the old spiv is very good at covering his tracks.

I had this disagreement with Tel backers the other day on here.

The man is a wrong un, Sugar is no mug when he got rid of him last time he was here, he knew he would become the most unpopular man in real north London but he had to do it.

I worked for a company at the time, that was directly involved with the club in this matter and trust me i can't go into details but Tel was a great manager and all that and a good bloke who could never be trusted with the petty cash key's.
 

hybridsoldier

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Aug 2, 2004
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I wouldnt trust Venables as far as I could throw him. His knowledge of the european market is nowhere near Comolli's.

I dont think he is to blame for England's EUro 08 flop, but at the sme time his days as a manager are gone and as a DoF? no chance!

Spurs should dump Comolli and just to PISS THEM OFF ge Sevilla's Sporting Director muhahahahahahaha
 

eddiebailey

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Oct 12, 2004
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Or three wins on the spin and we're back in UEFA contention. Remember how quickly Ramos pulled us out of the relegation zone when he took over at the end of October last year.

It is what is known as a "dead cat bounce".

I remember hearing years ago, that statistics showed that a struggling team would always improve dramatically when a new manager was appointed, but after a few games performances dropped off again. Managers only achieve long term improvements by bringing in new players. The alarming aspect of Ramos' management is that he has brought in new players and we have got worse.
 
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