Bitterness for Sherwood

[Stavrogin]

He has a tendency to run off at the mouth when he is on the defensive, Levy left him in a position where he was permanently on the defensive. The press conferences were always about Tim's future, and the journos learnt how to press his buttons.

As a job it was a lot tougher than most caretaker roles. He took over a squad that was in disarray but still had to maintain a top-four push. He also had to rehabilitate and utilize a number of expensive signings who didn't really work well together.

On the one hand he was clearly Levy's man yet he tried to present himself as a stand-alone manager - putting distance between him and the Board - at times he seemed to be at odds with them, which should never have been the case. It's all very strange. He should never have had to field questions about his future because he should have been 'in on it'.

 

[Dr Know]

I though we were past this

 

[prawnsandwich]

Levy sacked Graham for criticising his transfer dealings. Tim said he was not impressed by the transfer deals last summer and-guess what-he went, too.

 

[tototoner]

Always was and still am a huge Sherwood fan, hope he makes a sensible choice with his next job and thinks about what he says before he does

 

[ralvy]

Say what you want about the guy, he may not be world class or next level , but he is a good man and should have been kept in some capacity having the likes of him, sir les and co around is necessary , I feel like currently we have no "soul" that is the problem ... He will get a job and come back to haunt us one day. I believe in poch, but I also believe "dim Tim" should have been treated better by our own

So backstabbing those he works with, constantly throwing his players under the bus and taking no responsibility for his team's shortcomings is what you call being a good man?

 

[dudu]

I didnt like him because he's a snake, back stabber, tactically inept and had us playing like complete shit. The results were because of moments of brilliance from eriksen and a motivated ade(aka one who is 1000% different from the unmotivated useless lump on a log we had in AVB's first year and we have now). The fact that he's a **** just adds to my reasons for wanting him out. Any questions? Thought so. He's gone and still being a bitter ****. Let's drop this subject now.

You could have just said "i don't feel bitter at all"?

 

[Stavrogin]

i liked him for the first 2-3 months, seemed flexible in his approach to each game, introduced new players, was honest/straight with the media ... by the end of the season though he'd lost the plot playing 442 with a central midfield of chadli/siggy and paulinho and was airing needless stuff to the media - "sandro's not good enough" "our squad's much of a muchness" "jury's out on lamela", maybe they're all true but none should've been said publicly and it made the club look like a circus at times.

I don't know about this.

Whenever he said anything a large proportion of the fans would start howling as though he'd drowned a kitten. All that rage starts to warp your view of events. I thought the much of the muchness thing was actually bad but it didn't cause many waves outside the forums and when you read the whole thing it's pretty fair and spares the players.

"They are all good but the fans know it themselves – is there any world-class Gareth Bale-type player? No, there is not. Always you look for blend. Some of the guys are quite similar in the way that they play."

I'm against singling out Adebayor and Lloris as our top players but we probably shouldn't be so precious. The players know this stuff and maybe it works. Maybe talk like that can motivate Vertonghen to prove he's amongst our elite. Maybe it's the best way to manage Adebayor. Instead we immediately jump all over it, assuming it will be taken badly and chalk it up as a faux pas.

 

[tototoner]

You could have just said "i don't feel bitter at all"?

TBF I think that is what he meant

 

[stemark44]

i liked him for the first 2-3 months, seemed flexible in his approach to each game, introduced new players, was honest/straight with the media ... by the end of the season though he'd lost the plot playing 442 with a central midfield of chadli/siggy and paulinho and was airing needless stuff to the media - "sandro's not good enough" "our squad's much of a muchness" "jury's out on lamela", maybe they're all true but none should've been said publicly and it made the club look like a circus at times.

You don't think we are a circus now?
Barely a week goes by without someone in the press/media sticking the boot in.

 

[stemark44]

What I loved most about Tim was how honest he was. Even if a situation deserved to be handled discreetly or delicately, and perhaps even more sensitively I loved that Tim didn't hold back in spelling things out loud and clear.

I also really admired his modesty and his refusal to point out things that were crediting himself. There was an air of humility surrounding him. A truly humble individual.

Above all Tim was a gentleman and carried this great Club with absolute distinction.

Always admired, never forgotten.

Your guy ain't doing so good.

 

[stemark44]

Like Redknapp?

He was here up until he was 15.......he left to join West Ham and he definitely was a BIG Arsenal fan.

 

[Blake Griffin]

You don't think we are a circus now?
Barely a week goes by without someone in the press/media sticking the boot in.

i think we're just irrelevant now which is probably worse.

 

[danielneeds]

I thought he was very good at identifying our shortcomings.

I also got the impression he was like a drunken Tasmanian Devil thrashing in the wind when trying to deal with said problems, blindly swiping here, there and everywhere.

It's easy to point the finger at Levy for favouring the contintental manager to the the traditional British one, but Harry and Tim and many other British "old school" bosses take their cues from Cloughie, and believe the best way to get want you want from a chairman is to have an us against you mentality, trying to extract money for "one more signing" etc etc. Can't blame Levy for searching for a more holistic style.

 

[striebs]

Sherwood was a stand in .

If Spurs lose tonight and Levy pulls the trigger tomorrow morning who do we have who could stand in ?

Ian Bloomfield , Brad Friedel ?

 

[danielneeds]

Sherwood was a stand in .

If Spurs lose tonight and Levy pulls the trigger tomorrow morning who do we have who could stand in ?

Ian Bloomfield , Brad Friedel ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pleat

 

[striebs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pleat

Yes !

I'm a big fan of Pleaty .

At least when Pleaty had Michael Brown and the Ginger Pele on the pitch the players were giving it a go . Hate to think what this lot would be like in a relegation battle .

 

[whitesocks]

It would not surprise me if he formally came back to advise.
To advise Lewis, not Levy who was probably glad to see the back of him.
He might be privately advising now - how do the pooch fan club like that idea?

Just think, if his hotline to Lewis is still working, he probably has more say in any transfer dealings than Pooch. Maybe even Levy.

And if the manager's tough period continues, who is Lewis going to ring to ask if he needs to take action?
This is the Halloween thread right?

 

[RickyVilla]

He didn't have a foreign accent.

 

[danielneeds]

Yes !

I'm a big fan of Pleaty .

At least when Pleaty had Michael Brown and the Ginger Pele on the pitch the players were giving it a go . Hate to think what this lot would be like in a relegation battle .

One thing would be certain the likes of Stambouli, Bentelab and Adebayor would struggle to get a game under Old Pleaty. If he cant pronounce them, he can't very we'll pick them, can he?

 

[RickyVilla]

At least we looked like we could score goals under Sherwood. The same can't be said of Redknapp, AVB, or Poch (yet).

We scored a shed load of goals under Redknapp.