Bitterness for Sherwood

[punky]

I've been trying to reconcile this ever since he was appointed.

A lot of our fans give various 'reasons' but it seems to come down to the fact that with our players we either love them or hate them. What they do or don't do doesn't really come into it. We hated him before he joined as a player, we hated him before he was brought in by Redknapp so it follows we'd hate him becoming manager and so he never stood a chance.

I think it's petty, stupid and embarassing. I'd rather we just call an amnesty and drawn a line under it. Trying to find reason in it is going to drive us apart.

 

[RickyVilla]

I've been trying to reconcile this ever since he was appointed.

A lot of our fans give various 'reasons' but it seems to come down to the fact that with our players we either love them or hate them. What they do or don't do doesn't really come into it. We hated him before he joined as a player, we hated him before he was brought in by Redknapp so it follows we'd hate him becoming manager and so he never stood a chance.

I think it's petty, stupid and embarassing. I'd rather we just call an amnesty and drawn a line under it. Trying to find reason in it is going to drive us apart.

That ship sailed a long time ago Punky

 

[Metalhead]

It would not surprise me if he formally came back to advise.
To advise Lewis, not Levy who was probably glad to see the back of him.
He might be privately advising now - how do the pooch fan club like that idea?

Just think, if his hotline to Lewis is still working, he probably has more say in any transfer dealings than Pooch. Maybe even Levy.

And if the manager's tough period continues, who is Lewis going to ring to ask if he needs to take action?
This is the Halloween thread right?

'Pooch' is our first team coach so shouldn't we all be in the fan club? United we stand and all that.

 

[RickyVilla]

Sherwood was a stand in .

If Spurs lose tonight and Levy pulls the trigger tomorrow morning who do we have who could stand in ?

Ian Bloomfield , Brad Friedel ?

I think Freund is still around somewhere? Probably in Houdini's dungeon.

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

Various factors:

It didn't help that for ages 'ITK' painted him as some malevolent force at work behind the scenes who was plotting and scheming. We also had the senior management of this website calling him a **** before a ball had been kicked based on what they knew. I think this shaped some peoples view on the situation.

Then there were the AVB fanboys who were crying about him going and so his successor was always going to get abuse.

Then some people didn't like him as he was the second coming of Redknapp in their eyes.

Linked to the above, didn't like the supposed 'neanderthal' tactics and that he wouldn't play some of our apparently 'better' players

Some didn't like his accent and the way he spoke.

Some didn't like him criticising the players, even though what he said was almost certainly true. Some fans probably didn't want to hear/believe it.

Oh yeah, he was apparently an Arsenal fan. If you listen to one of the lunatics on this site you would get told he was deliberately ruining the club.

The Gilet.

A lot of posters fairly amusingly were panicking that he wasn't merely a caretaker (which was obvious) and were fretting that he was Emperor for life and would have to put up with all of the above for the next x amount of years.

100% agreement with all that and it just about sums it all up for me.

If things were bad on here during Sherwoods short reign you should have seen it over on the other forum of which I will not speak. There were people on there that said the most amazing things with no proof or anything to back it up, the sheer vitriol and spite had to be read to be believed.

I believe he did the job to the best of his ability when quite honestly nobody else would have touched the job with a 10 foot pole after AVB got the (deserved) boot. He was the Spurs manager and should have got the same amount of support all other managers got. Hey it's not like he was George Graham....

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

I think Freund is still around somewhere? Probably in Houdini's dungeon.

He's on the Great Wall of China (seriously!).

 

[Nine while nine]

He's on the Great Wall of China (seriously!).

Can't Andros get his own ball back?

 

[mill]

I rather liked having a manager who did not communicate in bland platitudes or made-up managment speak. I liked most of what he had to say, and felt a lot of it needed saying.

Sadly the lack of support from on high heaped too much pressure on him and by the end he was losing it.

Tim is not without personal flaws (to say the least), but he was doing a decent job, and with a pre-season to get across his ideas and address the weaknesses he had identiied in the squad, I am sure he would have done better; he would at least be doing better than we are now (not a pop at Poch - any change of management was going to set us back, and I said so at the time).

My main reason for supporting Tim though was that I have always been convinced that the only way Spurs can compete at the highest level is through an effective youth policy. Youth football is Tim's passion and he could have been relied on to faciliate that transition from the development squad through to the first team.

However, I doubt he would ever have won round a substantial portion of our fanbase; after every press conference, let alone every defeat, the knives would have been out for him just as they were for Redknapp, so perhaps it is best as that he is gone. We all go back to being one big happy family (some hope).

But I cannot say Tim's departure, or the cicrunstances surrounding it, has left me filled with hope for the future.

This was the reason I was happy for him to be given a chance but then it became clear pretty quickly that his ideas about the game bore very little resemblance to the games I've seen our youth teams play, which is only a handfull admittedly. That coupled with his 'I'm the daddy now' attitude soon put me off him

 

[SlotBadger]

Listening to him in the build up to this game reminds me exactly why I dislike him.

 

[Lufti]

Just listening to him now is painful

 

[Lufti]

Judging Lamela by his price tag. Great pundit.

A contradiction a minute. Says he wants them to be on a level playing field but says that the big money signings should be under more pressure to perform?

 

[SamR]

Interesting points raised.
I liked Sherwoods honesty. He would be a great Assistant manager if he could curb his 'i should be boss' arrogance he had about him and learn the trade for a few years.

The players are quick to cry wolf when things don't go their way so it was fresh air to see someone shake it up a bit. I want Poch to do the same...fed up with our 'superstars' getting an easy ride and blaming 'tactics', 'training intensity' and the other crap they preach to get their own way.

 

[SlotBadger]

On Erik Lamela: "This is him, thirty million pounds for one goal against a pub team from Greece"
On Andros Townsend: "He's one of the biggest characters. He's single-minded and can perform".

Yes, Tim. Ignore the fact Townsend does FUCK ALL with the ball.

 

[tim/osw]

very bitter indeed

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I think Sherwood should be the next England Manager.

 

[Grapo2001]

Tim's comments about Lamela are bang on IMO. All we have seen from him is that rabona goal. What more can Tim say?

 

[nuttynoah]

Charlie is talking like he's left his teeth out, that or he's pissed

 

[Lufti]

Tim's comments about Lamela are bang on IMO. All we have seen from him is that rabona goal. What more can Tim say?

Top assists for us this year. What've we seen from boy wonder Townsend? One wonder goal for England. Level playing field though of course

 

[muppetman]

Watching him tonight as a bein 'pundit' reminds me of all that I disliekd about the man. He makes me cringe.

 

[thinktank]

Fuck off tim you xxxx. LEAVE. LAMELA. ALOOOOOOONE!

People act like lamela set his own £30mil price tag. It's weird.