Boxing thread?

[poc]

A - Joshua, Fury, Wilder

B - Whyte, Povetkin, Parker, Ortiz

C - Breazeale, Ruiz/Miller ( to be fair, both could become B level, Ruiz gave Parker a good argument and Miller, well he’s a cheat ) Kowanacki, Chisora etc

There’s some interesting prospects, Hrgovic, Ajagba, Dubois/Gorman winner, Joyce etc but they’re all a few fights away from any class. Any could fall in to B, with a small chance of A.

Usyk is the enigma. He could beat them all. I don’t think he will, but make everyone the same size and he’d absolutely toy with all those above.

Regards Wilder Fury 2, I don’t think Fury is interested. He’s said as much. I don’t think he’ll fight for much longer which is a shame but he’s never really pushed himself to build a great body of work. Been a pro a long time and has faced two A level types then everything below that is safety C, D, F types. Doesn’t like a risk unless it’s for big, big rewards.

Ok well I putt Ruiz and miller at B since as you point out Ruiz gave Parker all he could handle and yes miller is a cheat however prior to that noone was pushing to fight him. Brezeale is defo a c fighter. But based on what you say which I agree with wilder and AJ at least are.fighting the right opposition. They are allowed to make some money not every fight has to pit the top three against each other it's never ever been that way in boxing so I don't understand why some fans seem to go on about they must face each other now. As long as they keep winning it will happen. Wilder let's be honest has gone up in terms of marketability because he has.avoided the AJ fight, if AJ puts Ruiz away they will get a massive payday and wilder will get a bigger percentage. This is just how this shit works and always has ?.

 

[poc]

I don’t think that’s entriely true.

Hearn and Joshua want the bigger slice of any fight.
Wilder wants to maximise it and to be fair, last night will have done him no harm in his quest for 50/50.
Fury? Got himself back to the top level, landed a big deal and will milk it unashamedly for all its worth! I really can’t stress how awful Schwarz is, thing is he’s given a pass for some reason because he has no real title.

Can see each point, but it’s shit for the fans and for the sport.

Very disappointing to see Ortiz brought in to the ring last night. Going over old ( old being the operative word... ) ground?

Big part of me wants Usyk to bring his A game to the heavyweights and beat them all. He’ll certainly fight them all based on his career at cruiser!

Usyk isn't big enough imo good.skill set but the HWs now are huge and will be too much for him.

 

[wizgell]

Usyk isn't big enough imo good.skill set but the HWs now are huge and will be too much for him.

Don't forget he fought at HW in the WSB. His movement would give a lot of HW's a real problem. He is a proper talent.

 

[poc]

Don't forget he fought at HW in the WSB. His movement would give a lot of HW's a real problem. He is a proper talent.

He'd beat the lesser guys but fury, Joshua and wilder beat him I reckon. Time will tell I guess ?

 

[fatpiranha]

I think Usyk has every chance of beating even the top HWs. His height and reach are identical to Muhammad Ali's and they were both considerably larger than Mike Tyson. Holyfield was a cruiserweight, Spinks and Moorer were light-heavyweights, and they all won the HW title.

Size doesn't matter quite so much at the heavier weights.

 

[dontcallme]

I don’t think it is as easy as people ducking each other. Boxers set themselves up to TV desks and they are signed with different companies.

It sucks but this is what happens with PPV. Not only do fans pay extra for mismatches but sometimes arranging fights is difficult as they don’t want to break any contracts.

One of the cases where one TV channel monopolising the sport could be a good thing but could never happen.

 

[dontcallme]

Random question I had a bet on an accumulator and for some reason one bet was Carlos Negron vs Daniel Martz.

The fight was arranged for last night but showing on my bet slip as open.

Tried Google and Twitter but can’t find any news. Anyone know?

 

[dontcallme]

Random question I had a bet on an accumulator and for some reason one bet was Carlos Negron vs Daniel Martz.

The fight was arranged for last night but showing on my bet slip as open.

Tried Google and Twitter but can’t find any news. Anyone know?

Seems no one in the world knows the result.

The betting site I have used, Google, Twitter and boxing sites have no idea.

 

[$hoguN]

I don’t think Fury felt the full power, he certainly didn’t get hit with that shot that out Breazeale away. If that lands, Fury isn’t getting up.

I think Wilder knocks him out in any rematch. Worth noting how light he was against Fury. For a relatively light heavyweight, he was actually 12 lbs or so below his optimum weight ( he was only 214lbs v Fury but was 226lbs last night )

I don’t think Fury takes the rematch anytime soon anyway. He’s on a run of bums for easy money.

AJ almost needs to make a statement in two weeks now. Especially if Wilder is ringside...or perhaps he labours a bit to entice Wilder in to the fight? Either way, needs to happen. No more Breazeales, Ruiz’s or the pathetic Schwarz! If they don’t fight each other at least face level B heavyweights and not level C ( or F in Schwarz’s case )

Fury is too slick for wilder to catch him as cleanly as he caught Breazeale

 

[SugarRay]

Fury is too slick for wilder to catch him as cleanly as he caught Breazeale

Could well be right. Wilder showed he doesn’t have to catch him fully to have him in serious, serious trouble though. The first knockdown was actually a nothing shot.

As I mentioned, Wilder was underweight for whatever reason against Fury, it might have had an effect. I’d like to see the rematch. It’s hard to call. A 225-230lb Wilder vs a less rusty Fury. Will it happen? I’m not so sure either fancy it

 

[$hoguN]

Could well be right. Wilder showed he doesn’t have to catch him fully to have him in serious, serious trouble though. The first knockdown was actually a nothing shot.

As I mentioned, Wilder was underweight for whatever reason against Fury, it might have had an effect. I’d like to see the rematch. It’s hard to call. A 225-230lb Wilder vs a less rusty Fury. Will it happen? I’m not so sure either fancy it

I don’t think either fancy it to. Fury was dominate though, I think Wilder dropped weight to add speed which wasn’t what he needed to do. Fury is a significantly better boxer than him, so Wilder needed the weight to try to end it at any point.

Come a rematch I would bet on Fury as he makes it too hard for Wilder to catch him cleanly. Nevertheless Wilder will always be someone who can end a fight in a single punch so will always be dangerous. I don’t think either want to take the risk. I mean fury must be chuckling at the contract ESPN agreed with him

 

[SugarRay]

I had Fury winning by a round. I wouldn’t say he was dominant though. He was nicking rounds, not really doing much, for quite a few of them. Not landing much of note is better than not landing much I guess.
Take away the two knockdowns and he wins clearly of course but they can’t be dismissed and also if you take away the two knockdowns then it’s the most boring title fight the heavyweight division has seen for ages too!

How he managed to blag that deal is hilarious. The yanks will regret it pronto. He’s great value out the ring but for the casual, he’s utterly boring inside it 90% of the time. Pitter patter shots on the way to unanimous decision victories won’t be tolerated over there for long, especially against terrible opponents. Good luck to him in a way but it’s a shitty situation for us fans.

I’m going to see him in a night with soon. I’ll bring it up with him...?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Blimey, i'd heard that Jimmy Smith was hilarious but never seen him fight. Someone at work today reminded me to check him out.

This. Is. Amazing.

Bell at ~1.30

 

[Thewobbler]

Seems no one in the world knows the result.

The betting site I have used, Google, Twitter and boxing sites have no idea.

Did this get sorted?

 

[dontcallme]

Did this get sorted?

Fight was cancelled though I don’t know why.

Been told if they don’t have the match within 30 days I get my money back.

 

[SE Spurs]

Wilder announces re match with Ortiz, as his next fight.

What a shock, no Joshua / Wilder fight again this year. Wilder holding on to his belt for grim death. By the time they actually fight, they probably wont even have a belt between em'.

 

[Thewobbler]

Fight was cancelled though I don’t know why.

Been told if they don’t have the match within 30 days I get my money back.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/489720


On the top of his box record it says he's been suspended so don't expect the fight to happen anytime soon.

 

[dontcallme]

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/489720


On the top of his box record it says he's been suspended so don't expect the fight to happen anytime soon.

Thanks, assumed it wouldn’t go ahead within 30 days.

 

[LSUY]

Wilder announces re match with Ortiz, as his next fight.

What a shock, no Joshua / Wilder fight again this year. Wilder holding on to his belt for grim death. By the time they actually fight, they probably wont even have a belt between em'.

It'll be like Mayweather and Pacquiao. Take years to arrange and be utterly underwhelming in the end.

 

[poc]

It'll be like Mayweather and Pacquiao. Take years to arrange and be utterly underwhelming in the end.

Could never be that underwhelming but I get your point ?