Brexit & eu passport holding players.

[cabinfever]

Not sure if this has been discussed before but I assume Brexit will have a huge effect on incoming players, from South America for instance, who at present manage to get into the UK via EU passports.

Any thoughts?

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

I'm pretty sure multi millionaires will get into the country just fine.

 

['O Zio]

Yeah I don't think they'll have a problem. As TheVoiceofReason says, mulimillionaires will be just fine. If you think about how much money the govt makes from taxing premier league players there'll almost definitely be a special visa or similar for mega wealthy people.

 

[widmerpool]

There will be an impact on their salary expectations from the continued collapse of the pound, of course.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

There will be an impact on their salary expectations from the continued collapse of the pound, of course.

Probably be balanced out by the low tax haven (for the rich) that'll be created in place of the soon to be privatised 'welfare' state

 

[Mycroft Jones]

After the UK's start to Brexit negotiations where we failed to stand firm on parallel discussions of the UK exit and future trade deals with the EU I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with conceding on free movement.

Even if that doesn't happen, this will have little impact on clubs in the Premier League who will have little trouble getting work permits for players they want to sign but there may be a few less EU footballers of average ability plying their trade in the lower reaches of the EFL.

 

[absolute bobbins]

I'm pretty sure multi millionaires will get into the country just fine.

That's not the point, why would players want to come?

If you're honest with yourselves, what will the post brexit UK have going for it?

 

[Speedy]

Brexit will only happen in name, in terms of red tape the UK is about to set global records in pointless treaties and new trade deals which we already have so I'd imagine a few millionaire footballers will have no problem continuing to take their hard earned pounds offshore just as they do currently.

 

[Saoirse]

I think people are being too dismissive of this possibility. It's largely left to the FA to set work permit regulations for footballers, and if we end freedom of movement that will apply to EU nationals too. I expect they'd certainly be considering trying to regulate for more English players in the Premier League to help the national side. We could see the existing regulations applied to EU players, or even a minimum number of English/British players in squads or starting XIs.

Out of those in our squad last season, Janssen, N'Koudou, Wimmer and Lopez likely wouldn't have been allowed to join if the work permit regulations applied to EU players. Generally players we're signing for the first XI would be fine, but backup/squad players wouldn't unless they're established internationals for decent nations. Obviously this would also drive up the price for British talent everyone would be chasing after (which could be good news for us if our academy continues churning out talent).

 

[TheChosenOne]

Burnley have loads of Paddies in their squad. Gulp.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Any thoughts?

Yeah, brexit was a crap decision.

The English have this notion that the "the government" will simply put in place rules to make sure nothing changes about what concerns them. The thing is everything will change, that's what you voted for. All the English have the same general idea in their head:

My local cheese monger (a fantastic guy) goes "it won't change anything, they'll put in place rules to make sure we can still import cheese. The trade is too big to not protect."

My local wine merchant (an even more fantastic guy) goes "it won't change anything, they'll put in place rules to make sure we can still import wine. They'll strike a deal with Spain, France, Italy first. The wine trade is too big to not protect."

My fellow spurs fans go (some quite fantastic people) "it won't change anything, they'll put in place rules to make sure we can still import footballers. The trade is too big to not protect."

If you didn't want anything to change that concerns you, why the heck vote for major changes. The government won't put into place new rules for every single industry out there. Things are going to change, that's how it is.

I also find it funny that we can't rule out that a few millions of brexit voters voted only due to immigration. Yet those same people pay for expensive tickets with hard earned cash every week to root for players from far away lands with weird names. "I hate immigrants, stealin' ma' jobs an all". "GO (insert name of foreign sining on EU passport) YOU ARE THE BEST!".

Rant over.
For now.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Yeah, brexit was a crap decision.

The English have this notion that the "the government" will simply put in place rules to make sure nothing changes about what concerns them. The thing is everything will change, that's what you voted for. All the English have the same general idea in their head:

My local cheese monger (a fantastic guy) goes "it won't change anything, they'll put in place rules to make sure we can still import cheese. The trade is too big to not protect."

My local wine merchant (an even more fantastic guy) goes "it won't change anything, they'll put in place rules to make sure we can still import wine. They'll strike a deal with Spain, France, Italy first. The wine trade is too big to not protect."

My fellow spurs fans go (some quite fantastic people) "it won't change anything, they'll put in place rules to make sure we can still import footballers. The trade is too big to not protect."

If you didn't want anything to change that concerns you, why the heck vote for major changes. The government won't put into place new rules for every single industry out there. Things are going to change, that's how it is.

I also find it funny that we can't rule out that a few millions of brexit voters voted only due to immigration. Yet those same people pay for expensive tickets with hard earned cash every week to root for players from far away lands with weird names. "I hate immigrants, stealin' ma' jobs an all". "GO (insert name of foreign sining on EU passport) YOU ARE THE BEST!".

Rant over.
For now.

The difference between people moving in large groups to take up the lowest paid jobs in society and people in specialised professions is so obvious it shouldn't need explaining

 

[freeeki]

Not sure if this has been discussed before but I assume Brexit will have a huge effect on incoming players, from South America for instance, who at present manage to get into the UK via EU passports.

Any thoughts?

South Americans have EU passports?

 

[Navin R Johnson]

South Americans have EU passports?

Lots seem to have Italian heritage and claim EU passports under grandfather rights.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

South Americans have EU passports?

Yes, many do

 

[Saoirse]

The difference between people moving in large groups to take up the lowest paid jobs in society and people in specialised professions is so obvious it shouldn't need explaining

And the industries relying on those low-paid workers are currently hoping that it won't change anything, as their industry is too important and the government will make different rules for them.

This notion that we can, within three years, lose access to a pool of 678m people who we can at present freely trade with, employ and invite to visit without any serious consequence is utterly bizarre. I say this as someone who has no great love for the EU and would rather we weren't a member: it simply can't be done. We would need literally a generation to prepare for leaving once the decision was made. We need the time to educate and train people in the trades we'll need them to work in here to avoid costly imports, to negotiate trade deals with us so as to cover any gaps, to sort out our own laws which rely upon European legislation, to massively invest in housing so that the British workers moving into the low-end jobs currently occupied by European immigrants don't have to live in the same cramped and squalid conditions.

If we actually go ahead with this it is going to have a massive impact, and there's no reason to think football will escape from that. Just imagine for a start what happens when fewer people in this country can afford Sky subscriptions at current prices, TV deals with foreign countries are subject to tariffs, and the quality is lowered with more Championship-standard cloggers filling gaps and fewer world-class talents - the likes of Henry and Ronaldo prone to falling foul of work permit rules at the time they moved to the Premier League.

 

[cabinfever]

South Americans have EU passports?

Huge amount of them have fairly recent European (mostly Spain and Italy) roots.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Huge amount of them have fairly recent European (mostly Spain and Italy) roots.

Brazil/ Portuguese

 

[cabinfever]

Brazil/ Portuguese

Of course, apologies!!

 

[TheChosenOne]

There is also a lot of Irish and Scottish ancestry in Argentina from the mid 1800's.

To far back for any passport malarkey though.