Can I trust Tottenham not to let me down again?

Pinto

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The problem is that we have been taken in by this kind of talk before. Every fresh start is meant to be the time we get it right at last. It's easy to be carried away with sentences like the one above but I've seen countless managers line up with countless players for pre-season photocalls and every time you'd have someone saying 'We have a good squad and a good manager, we are making solid signings and future is bright'. Don't get me wrong, they will have my full support as usual when they take the pitch, as I have already stated, but I won't get carried away so easily, now more than ever. I want to enjoy it more, not face being let down by false expectations. It's those same expectations that leads to unrest when it doesn't all quite go as it should. I'm stopping to take a deep breath, looking forward to sustained progress and just hoping the next downturn in fortune isn't going to happen anytime soon. It sounds very pessimistic for me of all people but it is too easily labelled as that by those who buy into an overly optimistic view. It's amazing what stepping back and looking at things from another angle can do. I'm just sharing that view.
We won some silverware last year for the first time in a very long time and we are in Europe again yet we should not be excited with the team we have??

Just think back 5-7 years when the team was a joke. I also think taking a deep breath is fine and I can't help how you felt in the past or were suckered in by false claims but my honest response to you is if you don't care like you stated in your first post then don't come on here, if you do care then don't make posts saying how disinterested you are. Seems pretty simple to me. Anyway, for the most part I agree with what you are saying just not in the tone you seemed to be portraying is all. You should have said cautious not disinterested is all.

Besides this is Spurs, if you want realistic go support a team that knows its place, Spurs should never settle for average and we as fans should get excited when we bring in huge signings like Modric and Dos Santos with what we already have. Just need a few more signings to shore up def. midfield and goalkeeper IMO. Why not come on here and talk about the signings we need to make to get you excited for the new season then??

Anyway, not trying to be rude to you and think you made some good points just didn't like the attitude is all. :cheers:
 

hellava_tough

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the answer is NO

Spurs will always let us down and excite us in equal measure.

We are a club/team of drama, not success...just remember that.
Spot on!




Btw, ultimateloner, can I interest you in a noose?

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What? :shrug:

Make hay while the sun shines :grin:
 

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...20 years ago you were comming up to being 5?..were you exited about pre-season aged 5? personally I (a spurs fan of the same age) was playing with transformers, pulling up girls skirts, eating small insects - and the like...
You are wrongly assuming that I have been a Spurs fan since birth which is not the case :wink: Shame really, I'd have seen a bit more silverware :-(

We won some silverware last year for the first time in a very long time and we are in Europe again yet we should not be excited with the team we have??

Just think back 5-7 years when the team was a joke. I also think taking a deep breath is fine and I can't help how you felt in the past or were suckered in by false claims but my honest response to you is if you don't care like you stated in your first post then don't come on here, if you do care then don't make posts saying how disinterested you are. Seems pretty simple to me. Anyway, for the most part I agree with what you are saying just not in the tone you seemed to be portraying is all. You should have said cautious not disinterested is all.

Besides this is Spurs, if you want realistic go support a team that knows its place, Spurs should never settle for average and we as fans should get excited when we bring in huge signings like Modric and Dos Santos with what we already have. Just need a few more signings to shore up def. midfield and goalkeeper IMO. Why not come on here and talk about the signings we need to make to get you excited for the new season then??

Anyway, not trying to be rude to you and think you made some good points just didn't like the attitude is all. :cheers:
You've have wrongly latched on to the disinterested part of my post and applied it to the entire post. There is no question of me giving up completely, going away for good and especially not going off to another team! There is no attitude other than trying to seperate and distance myself from the usual pre-season over-expectations and actually wait for a ball to be kicked so I can make up my own mind about where I think we are going and how new players settling in. Last season the expectation levels were higher than they had been for many years but they clashed head-on with behind the scene problems, injuries and another batch of players who had yet to settle in. I was gutted that another year went by in the familiar position of midtable when I was told by the so-called experts that the next stop was top 4. As so many others have noticed in this thread, it is not about giving up, it's about getting a sense of perspective by forming your own opinions based on the actual stuff that happens on the pitch. That's the reason I'm clearing the decks, clearing my head of the over-analysis, I'm going into the new season with hope, as I said things are progressing, just not over-inflated hope.

And as for coming on here just to talk about our new players, nobody on this site is given a charter on what they should talk about concerning Spurs. This is a viewpoint from a Spurs fan who seems to be in sympathy with quite a few other fellow Spurs fans and the whole point of having a Community of this size is to share many different opinions. So if I take a backseat right now (not as you put it 'jump off the bandwagon'), it is perfectly within my rights to do so.
 
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I watched a spurs v wimbledon game on ESPN the other day from late 90's the year we nearly got related under Gross. Apart from Klinsmann the team was full of compete dross and managed by a half bald unknown idiot. The vague hope and optimism of breaking into the top four we now have as spurs fans seems light years away from these days and we should think ourselves lucky. However I cant help but dread that familar dismal away performance on the opening day against boro and going down to a wonder scored by someone who will never ever score a goal like it in his career again.
 

hellava_tough

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I watched a spurs v wimbledon game on ESPN the other day from late 90's the year we nearly got related under Gross. Apart from Klinsmann the team was full of compete dross and managed by a half bald unknown idiot. The vague hope and optimism of breaking into the top four we now have as spurs fans seems light years away from these days and we should think ourselves lucky. However I cant help but dread that familar dismal away performance on the opening day against boro and going down to a wonder scored by someone who will never ever score a goal like it in his career again.
FOOL!!!!

The mighty Ginola was playing for us!!







But, to be fair, I know what you're saying
 
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I'm not so sure, but where do I start in the disassembly of your witty and protracted argument?

Er, well, to start with have you been living on Mars for the last 18 years?

Oh, you have.

Sorry, I apologise. :oops:
im only 17 you half wit.

i dont see how you can agree with somebody saying the complete opposite of what our club is based on. tradition and history.

It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory."
 

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I watched a spurs v wimbledon game on ESPN the other day from late 90's the year we nearly got related under Gross. Apart from Klinsmann the team was full of compete dross and managed by a half bald unknown idiot. The vague hope and optimism of breaking into the top four we now have as spurs fans seems light years away from these days and we should think ourselves lucky. However I cant help but dread that familar dismal away performance on the opening day against boro and going down to a wonder scored by someone who will never ever score a goal like it in his career again.
As I was actually at that game I'm well aware of how far we have come! :lol: I see those times as us under-achieving (in quite a shocking manner!), others might say breaking into the top 4 might be over-achieving for a club that is still progressing. I just want to us achieve and sustain decent momentum, building the whole time instead of being it being such a rollercoaster. To some extent the last few years we've gained that, I'm just not expecting miracles just yet.
 

hellava_tough

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im only 17 you half wit.

i dont see how you can agree with somebody saying the complete opposite of what our club is based on. tradition and history.

It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory."
Hahaha - some good points there, young lad.

However:

Even though our club is based on "tradition and history", it doesn't mean to say that the last 18 years have been nothing but "drama and not success".

How can you disagree with this :shrug:

PS I wish I was 17 again. Tell me juande, is it still a magical place of financial comfort and sexual endeavour?
 
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Hahaha - some good points there, young lad.

However:

Even though our club is based on "tradition and history", it doesn't mean to say that the last 18 years have been nothing but "drama and not success".

How can you disagree with this :shrug:

PS I wish I was 17 again. Tell me juande, is it still a magical place of financial comfort and sexual endeavour?
i never once said that the last 18 years have not been shite. in my lifetime weve won the fa cup and two carling cups which is appauling. i just disagree with someone saying we are a drama club not a sucessful one.

and by the way grow up and stop trying to patronise me. i go to work, pay my tax just like you. so fuck off.
 

hellava_tough

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i never once said that the last 18 years have not been shite. in my lifetime weve won the fa cup and two carling cups which is appauling. i just disagree with someone saying we are a drama club not a sucessful one.

and by the way grow up and stop trying to patronise me. i go to work, pay my tax just like you. so fuck off.
:lol: Good point

But how do you know I'm not an unemployed ****?

:grin:
 

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Good read mate. The 90s were truly horrible...I started supporting in 91. For most of the time since then until the last few years we've been so guff that the media barely spoke about us except to read our results, report our sackings & to take the pisch. One overpriced bad signing was usually swiftly followed by another.

I always got jealous seeing Leeds & toon signing quality players & being in the top four...not to mention Bolton & Boro in the wafer. How the hell did they get there ahead of us?? Even Fulham & Charlton were better than us for a while.

Now it's clear to see how we were such a joke. No one got more stick than the yido in the class...even the gimpy token lower league fan who had the entire kit including the socks & garters. I think we probably deserved it.

I think we're getting close to having the last laugh.

EDIT: We were such a joke that the only other person we won anything under was a bung paying gooner in a raincoat who everybody hated.

Where did it go wrong? After El Tel?
 
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Good read mate. The 90s were truly horrible...I started supporting in 91. For most of the time since then until the last few years we've been so guff that the media barely spoke about us except to read our results, report our sackings & to take the pisch. One overpriced bad signing was usually swiftly followed by another.

I always got jealous seeing Leeds & toon signing quality players & being in the top four...not to mention Bolton & Boro in the wafer. How the hell did they get there ahead of us?? Even Fulham & Charlton were better than us for a while.

Now it's clear to see how we were such a joke. No one got more stick than the yido in the class...even the gimpy token lower league fan who had the entire kit including the socks & garters. I think we probably deserved it.

I think we're getting close to having the last laugh.
the earlyest i remember was arsenal gettin shit hot. and same as you, i was the token yid that got the stick on a monday after being stuffed by i dont know... bradford!!!

IMO we deserve it more than anyone right now and your right its getting close, so close i think i can see it on the horizon!
 
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