Can You Ever Stop Being a Spurs Fan?

Discussion in 'Columns' started by Thesoccershrink, Sep 2, 2014.

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    Yesterday, there was a post from greaves4fr expressing complete frustration with our chairman, which led him to decide to stop supporting Spurs. But can you ever stop supporting Spurs? I mean can you really stop? Not sneak a peak at the scores, or the table or wonder what your former buddies at WHL and on this forum are doing? OK, so if you're twelve years old and decide another team is cooler and sexier, I guess you can switch allegiance. But what if you have 20, 30, 40 or 50 years invested in following one team. Can you really give it up?

    First, supporting a team is part of your identity. Not only have you expended an extraordinary amount of your time, effort and money in following Spurs, you have done so very publicly -- the flag on your car, the banner outside your house, the T-shirts, not to mention your social circle, the members of which are either staunchly aligned in the same brotherhood or against you.

    Second, your history is inextricably interconnected with the club (and 'club' is an important concept here). You remember vividly where you were when we were relegated, promoted, won the cup, when Harry joined, when Harry left. The magical moments -- and the really terrible ones -- are stored in your memory with a vividness that is unmatched by pretty much anything else in your life. (There's a scientific reason for this to do with the role of emotion in memory storage and consolidation, but that's beyond the scope of this article.)

    Third, supporting a soccer team, like marriage, is a test of your character. Yes, it would be great if life were stress-free and you won all the time, but it isn't and you can't. There are ups and downs, highs and low and to expect otherwise is to believe in Superman and the Tooth Fairy (whom, my ITK tells me, has just signed a deal with Luis Suarez). We know that life is like that and in many ways it is our endurance and our commitment that is the most important part of being a supporter. We show up in the rain, snow, ice, -- even at the sports bar or living room couch, always with hope, sometimes with anxiety, but unfailingly with passion. It's a total commitment unlike any other. It's about as unconditional as a commitment can get. Chairmen come and go, players arrive and leave, results fluctuate. But you're still there.

    I would argue it's easier to change religion and get divorced than it is to give up supporting the team that has been so meaningful to you.

    I have spent a career observing people struggle to change the things in their lives that are really killing them, where there's no logical reason to continue with their actions, indeed where there are immediate compelling reasons why they should give them up -- and they still can't do it. Can you really deny your past? It would take something really dramatic and life-changing to even have a chance -- something like a sex change, disowning your family, or joining the federal witness protection program.

    Giving up supporting Spurs (or any other team) is giving up. Giving up hope, commitment, and passion. Sure, we all get frustrated and think that the easiest way to end the pain is to simply stop. But your frustration is directly proportional to your passion. Giving up is to say you don't want to be so committed because it can be too painful. But what do you have if you don't have passion, hope and commitment? So, when you think of quitting, remember, this isn't about Spurs, it's about you.

    And as a fan you should keep one thing in mind:

    It's not what Spurs have given you, it's what you have given Spurs.

    Can you really stop?
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Discussion in 'Columns' started by Thesoccershrink, Sep 2, 2014.

Could you really stop supporting Spurs?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Not sure

  1. ikan
    Football have changed since the 80's. It is more like a business investment now. I love the club (although I am not a Brit) and anything, which are beneficial to the club are most welcome.

    Am I upset with the transfer window? No, not at all. True enough we did not manage to sign players who are our primary targets but what make us to conclude that the recently signed Dier, Yedlin, Fazio, Stambouli, Davies and Vorm are inferior to the Primary targets. We moaned when we signed expensive players and criticize our scouting systems for their lack of scouting. However when we managed to sign players who are highly rated at their own league, we moaned that we are signing unknowns. I would prefer to call that good scouting.

    Spurs need a good scouting network, a good academy and most important of all a Head Coach who make full use of these two priorities. Spurs will always have trouble competing heads on with the likes of the two Mancs, Liverpool, Arse and Chelscum due to Spurs capacity limit. Therefore the appointment of Pochettino who have the reputation of being a good coach and talent spotter is an important one. If Pocho find some of the players are not coachable or do not have the character to suit his system and wish to move them to other clubs, then by all means do it.

    I will always support Spurs regardless what will happen. The name Spurs have embedded in my heart since I was 11 years old (I am 37 now) and you can't stop supporting a passion, which is with you for 25 years. To take a break from it .... yes but never claim that you can stop supporting Spurs.

    To those who claim you can stop supporting Spurs, I just want to post a question;
    Will you be back supporting Spurs if Spurs perform better than you expected? If you do ... what does that makes you?
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  2. BuryMeInEngland
    Not only "NO" but No, Never, not in a million years.

    I guess the 7 who voted yes were never raised from small kids supporting the Spurs, never went through the shit years, never saw them get relegated, never saw them going through the revolving door of managers in the 90's, never suffered the humiliation of having George fucking Graham manage us.

    Only plastic fans change their allegiance and drop their team like a used Kleenex.
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  3. greamespurs61
    Nice story mate & what a bunch of tossers the people who unliked this
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  4. yidstreet
    The day we win the league my life will be complete. Then I will stop watching them.

    Looks like I will be watching for a long time.
  5. Arnoldtoo
    Like I said in the other thread, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

    Seems to me the emotional involvement in a football team is about as deep a tribal connection as we get. It becomes a real part of you and is not something where you can just make a dispassionate decision to disengage; it doesn't work like that. I could no more stop supporting Spurs than I could stop being English.

    I'm sure there are exceptions, as there are to everything, but it would take a seismic upheaval in someone's life for that tribal connection to be severed.
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  6. thebetamaxboy
    I think it's possible to give up on football but you'll still always have some love for the club. I know I could never support another club after 30 years, It was hoddle and waddle for me that got me hooked initially. That said I used to care as much about England as I do spurs whereas now I could not give a flying f**k about tonight's game and it was the 2010/14 WC's that finally killed it for me.

    If spurs were like an NFL franchise I think I'd lose the love if they moved 400 miles away, if the top of the EPL became a super league with other European leagues permanently I'd lose my love of football. I could see myself becoming more involved with spurs if we adopted the German fan owned setup of clubs in England.
  7. spurs-r-us
    Not many of the people who I spend time with since I got to Uni have a clue that I go for Spurs.

    Probably could if I decided to quit.
  8. peter_the_yid
    Would you want too? Spurs are so awesome.
  9. diamondlight
    Made worse by also being an England fan. Double trouble!
  10. Lordbaldermort
    Tried, can't stop.

    The game as a whole is another matter. I don't subscribe to Sky, read newspapers or participate in any of the Sky/Premier League generated fanfare, watch MOTD (use youtube for highlights)etc, etc. Generally only watch Spurs.

    I now have more time for other interests, feel less stressed and anxious about football as a whole, and enjoy it more.
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  11. degoose
    In my opinion if you are complaining about spurs because they aren't signing the players that man city are and chelsea are then you are a bit of an idiot and not living in the real world and hey if you want to stop supporting spurs because of that then i am sure all the people who had to put up with you whinging at every game and abusing players are happy that you are gone . There is no way Spurs can compete with those teams money wise so the best way to compete is through youth, good signings and good management getting Spurs to play good football and gradually improve.

    As a spurs fan i am honest with the situation and think things through logically regarding players we sign and we targets we can hit. I would also prefer to currently be a spurs fan than say a villa,sunderland or newcastle fan as they are in the area that Spurs were in the 90's ,either close to relegation or slap bang mid table.

    Spurs have improved over the years and will improve more i feel and Spurs are still a good draw to players across the world.

    As for the main question, nope i would never stop supporting spurs , i've been through the harsh years in the 90's and didn't give up so why would i now. Maybe some more recent fans are just like spoilt brats and expect everything given to them and instant success, if so then go and support Man City.
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  12. Nynorsk
    I think I could. I just don't want to. It's a story in my life, and it's interesting to follow it, even though you sometimes get the feeling you've read some of the chapters before. The main charachter has a distinct personality, he's not plain, flawless and boring, but complex and genuine -- an individual. You want the story to end well, but it's more important that the story is worth reading.
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  13. Reece
    And the people that turn away, and say they could, how would they feel if we then went and won the league or a cup next season. Would they be interested again?
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  14. PIP-99
    Never mind the commitment of money, time and emotion. There is also the abject humiliation you would suffer from those who support the shower down the road. The very thought of their commenting on how you "just got off at the wrong tube stop" etc turns my stomach. Sorry it's a life long commitment no matter what.
  15. dagraham
    Karl Marx once said religion is the opium of the masses and in a secular society so is football. Supporting Spurs is like a smack habit. You know it's no good for you, but you can't stop.

    It's impossible to stop supporting a football club you've invested in emotionally and financially for years.

    You can however start caring less and less about it and football in general. After so many false dawns at Spurs and the whole game basically worshiping at the alter of money it's hard to keep up the same level of enthusiasm.

    Having said that, when your team is winning and at the top it's surprising how much you forget about how corrupt and overhyped the game is nowadays.

    I have to admit that after seeing us get so close to being challengers with Bale, Modric, VDV etc, the whole Chelsea nicking our CL place and the subsequent break up of our team has left me feeling more and more cynical about Spurs.

    I still have my season ticket though, still enjoy going to WHL and still lap up all things Spurs. I am just more philosophical about it these days. I just don't harbour the same false hope I used to, don't get as angry or down after a heavy defeat and just enjoy it for what it is.
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  16. spud
    That just about sums it up. Absolutely no contest.

    I've said before that the only constant in your life is your football club. Family members are born and die, friends come and go, but there is always, has always been, and (appeal to deity of choice) will always be, Tottenham Hotspur FC.
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  17. spud
    No he didn't. He said that it is the opiate of the masses. Subtle difference and a misquote that always annoys the fuck out of me.
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  18. dagraham
    Sorry sir. Please don't give me detention.
  19. spud
    I'll let you off this time. Next time it'll be the headmaster's study for you - and you don't want that old queen rogering you senseless, do you?
  20. garryparkerschest
    There was a time when you couldn't but these days your treat more like a customer rather than a fan so I think it's so much easier to stop supporting your team.

    If you went to Tesco's and received a poor service or it didn't reach your expectations you wouldn't have second thoughts of going to Sainsburys.

    Football is becoming the same.

    I blame the money in the game and the direction the clubs are taking.

    Young fans will see it the same, it's no longer a tribal culture and you're more like a customer and if it stays the same, young fans will jump ship on a more regular basis.
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