Captain Between The Posts....

[Flynn]

I'm happy with Hugo as captain, the only time I can think of that he could of done more was during the battle of the bridge and our young players were losing their heads. I think he could of "figuratively" put his arm around a few of them to calm things down.

Had we not got drawn into wrestling match we might of won and still finished second that year above the Arse

 

[Zlatan]

I've noticed that during games, the refs usually talk to Harry when they talk to the captains. I'd guess he's seen as the alternate captain when Hugo's on the other side of the pitch.

 

[lol]

i love it. hugo deserves the respect because he is france captain plus he is older. imagine how fuck up lloris would feel if hes stripped off captaincy. plus in our box he is the captain, outside the box, its kane. its basically having 2 fucking captains, taking turns to be batman and robin. its like having two girlfriends who are both hot yet agrees to have a side chick. AAAWWWWW SHIEEEETTT

 

[Tottenham_God]

We have leaders all over the pitch. Toby and Jan at the back.

Let's not forget that Wanyama is captain of his country. Love that man.

 

[Gassin's finest]

A captain is a leader, and the player that the team most respects. Hugo is a great example of a dignified, passive, yet inspiring leader, who's opinion and character is respected.

It's not necessarily about strategy, it's about simple human leadership.

 

[walton]

It really should be this situation as well. Such an easy thing to implement but nope the authorities remain scared of the players so don't do it.

Anyway...whilst that is not the case, I agree with those that say the role isn't as important as it used to be. A lot of it is the influence around the club itself and in interviews etc so no reason a keeper can't do it.

In terms of leading on the pitch I'd hope we wouldn't leave that to one player and with the likes of Toby, SuperJan and Harry in the team we've got a fairly good selection of influential characters to keep us going forwards on matchdays.

To me, this represents a decent argument for getting the right captain in place; finding someone who can add that extra 1% from the field could make a significant difference in the modern game where captain's appear to be considered as not so important. Just look at how Gerrard dragged Liverpool along at times, and Terry, Kompany etc. We don't have anyone at that level of captaincy just now, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't look at trying to eek out any potential gains on the pitch, through an informed choice of leader.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

I wish it was like rugby where only the captain can talk to the ref.

That is the rule

 

[talkshowhost86]

To me, this represents a decent argument for getting the right captain in place; finding someone who can add that extra 1% from the field could make a significant difference in the modern game where captain's appear to be considered as not so important. Just look at how Gerrard dragged Liverpool along at times, and Terry, Kompany etc. We don't have anyone at that level of captaincy just now, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't look at trying to eek out any potential gains on the pitch, through an informed choice of leader.

Gerrard did that because he was a magnificent player not because he was captain, and I think having that cult of personality around one player can actually be damaging.

In the three examples you've given, the clubs have at times been far too reliant on those players and when they are out injured or out banging other players' wives, they don't know how to replace them.

I'd much rather have a team of players willing to take on the responsibility of driving a game forwards than having one.

 

[Tucker]

That is the rule

Is it? Then they really should enforce it.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Is it? Then they really should enforce it.

Yeah. They sort of do as you can see the ref telling everyone to piss off except the captains and the accused.

I remember always seeing Rio Ferdinand chatting with ref. Not sure Hugo could run over though. Hopefully Vice captains can also intervene.

 

[mightyspur]

I wish it was like rugby where only the captain can talk to the ref.

The difference is, in rugby all 15 players are generally in the vicinity of the ball and/or where the offence takes place that means it is quick and easy for the ref to call them over.

In football if something goes on down in the end by the corner flag and the captain is the keeper, if the ref was only to talk to them you'd get the keeper jogging up the pitch 100m or so to basically be told by the ref he needs to calm his players down blah blah. So if you introduce that rule, it effectively rules out the captain being a keeper.

Not suggesting that is a bad idea, but that is why it isn't as easy to implement.

 

[Tucker]

Yeah. They sort of do as you can see the ref telling everyone to piss off except the captains and the accused.

I remember always seeing Rio Ferdinand chatting with ref. Not sure Hugo could run over though. Hopefully Vice captains can also intervene.

Seeing that as them policing it is optimistic at best. Refs are routinely surrounded by players arguing the toss, they rarely get more than a talking to, only to repeat the offence five minutes later.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Yeah. They sort of do as you can see the ref telling everyone to piss off except the captains and the accused.

I remember always seeing Rio Ferdinand chatting with ref. Not sure Hugo could run over though. Hopefully Vice captains can also intervene.

They don't enforce it properly at all.

The difference between rugby and football on this point is very stark and I don't understand why they don't just enforce it. Would reduce the backchat and ref intimidation immediately.

 

[Krule]

The question is just what exactly does the Captain do on a match day now with regards to team instructions / tactics during a match or is that all now the responsibility of the manager ? I totally agree that Lloris is quite rightly respected by both his club and international team mates. What I am asking is in the modern day of football does wearing the armband simply mean that the ref knows who he needs talk to on the pitch concerning a player or players behaviour. When people talk about modern day players being "Great Captains" does that refer more to their off the pitch conduct rather than how they control an actual game ??
Has being team captain turned into an ambassadorial role rather than a 'hands on' one ?? ...does he now have an effective part to play in the strategy of the team's play or simply relay the instructions from the manager's dugout ??

 

[walton]

Gerrard did that because he was a magnificent player not because he was captain, and I think having that cult of personality around one player can actually be damaging.

In the three examples you've given, the clubs have at times been far too reliant on those players and when they are out injured or out banging other players' wives, they don't know how to replace them.

I'd much rather have a team of players willing to take on the responsibility of driving a game forwards than having one.

I don't think we disagree; the two aren't mutually exclusive. Given how fine the margins can be, having a player that can provide an extra % to the overall team through his leadership on the pitch (however that manifests itself) can make a difference. Obviously that leadership can come from anyone as required, but it makes sense that the player who is most effective at delivering this should be captain.

 

[thfc1973]

Theres always an outfield player who's vice and if its Harry in that particular game he would give instructions out, so it doesn't really matter too much. Besides, I think when it comes to us, theres a couple of reasons I think that our captains are who they are, 1 is obviously due to their seniority but the other I'm sure is related to their wages. ue to our wage cap they have given certain people the captaincy/vice captaincy to also bump their wages up in the bonus aspect when they have the armband.