Carrick coming back?!

[bubble07]

Ramos ready to bring Carrick back to White Hart Lane for £18m


Tottenham coach Juande Ramos wants to bring Michael Carrick back to White Hart Lane in the January transfer window. England midfielder Carrick is one of the players Ramos has targeted to provide the creative spark that the Spurs side are currently lacking to turn their season around.

The Daily Telegraph reports that the ex-Sevilla coach is prepared to pay Manchester United £18 million to resign the midfielder who left the club to move to Old Trafford just 16 months ago.

United, however, would stand to lose £600,000 having splashed out £18.6m for the former West Ham player's signature last July. Carrick, who was overlooked by England coach Steve McClaren for the double-header of matches with Austria and Croatia, has held down a regular place in the United team this season.

That has been in no small part to Owen Hargreaves' current injury problems which has seen the former Bayern Munich midfielder forced to withdraw from England duty this week.
Carrick also faces competition from summer arrival Anderson this season, but the 26-year-old has welcomed the added pressure and has said he knows just how determined the young players are to land a first-team place at Old Trafford.

"It wasn't that long ago I was in the same position, trying to establish myself," he said.
"I have seen these boys in training for the last year or so and I know how much quality they have got. "There is no better place to learn your trade than here. I am sure they will improve bundles just by having the opportunity to train with some of the lads we have here."

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[talkshowhost86]

Carrick...the return?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/11/15/ufncarrick115.xml

I suspect this is just a bit of tit-for-tat in the United and Berbatov saga.

However if this happened it would be a fantastic move for us. I'd be more than happy to pay them the £18m back (or rather not pay them whatever we owe).

Go on Juande! Bring him back!

 

[Flatters]

I'd loov it. Loov it, if he came back.

Loov it.

 

[Fordy]

oooh i was only saying about this to a mate on sunday. id have him back tomorrow.

 

[bubble07]

unfortunatly i can see some sort of swap deal for berba. But with carrick's through balls bent would score shit loads of goasls for us.

Plus with carrick coming back to us it would be seen as him being a failure at united which is not what he would want but who knows?!!!

 

[jimtheyid]

I would love carra to come back.

But he wont.

 

[SouthLondonSpur]

Hmmm interesting. Pretty sure this is journo rubbish, but it does raise some interesting thoughts.

All the talk of Berba going to Manure. Carrick not playing there when Hargreaves is fit. Possible swap deal etc as stated above.

Having said that, and I would love Carrick to come back, I cant see it. He's just won the prem with Manure, why wopuld he come back, less money etc.

I tell you what, lets swap him for Zokora, they can have Ghaly as a sweetner as well!

 

[llamafarmer]

I'm a fan of Carrick's and we've always missed him since he left, but this won't happen.

 

[Gin+Tonic14]

Never EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Hmmm interesting. Pretty sure this is journo rubbish, but it does raise some interesting thoughts.

All the talk of Berba going to Manure. Carrick not playing there when Hargreaves is fit. Possible swap deal etc as stated above.

Having said that, and I would love Carrick to come back, I cant see it. He's just won the prem with Manure, why wopuld he come back, less money etc.

I tell you what, lets swap him for Zokora, they can have Ghaly as a sweetner as well!

Teddy did! Can't see this one happening. Firstly I don't see Levy paying £18m for a player we already had. Secondly I don't really see him as the all action type of midfielder that Ramos seems to favour. As good as Carrick is, he doesn't seem the best fit for Ramos' normal style.

 

[Kurtzen]

For a midfield crying out for the demonstrative, overflowing with personality bypasses and serial anonymity, buy another one?

A novel idea? How about we just find a midfielder who can run, pass, tackle, and head, with no inclination to invisibility?

 

[orkneyspur]

Little Juande goes to see Santa at Selfishridges.
'Yes little manager, what would you like for Christmas.'
'I woold like a silver cup and a new car, (I think I'll get one of these at the bottom of the bed anyway from my friend Daniel, whispers to Santa, 'I've seen it already, I looked in the car park, but don't say anything!!'), I'd like Berby to stay and play with me for ever and ever.............I'd like a cup', ('You've said that already' says Santa), erm...................'I'd like a song made up for me like that Jol bloke had, 'ees got no 'air, but we don' care', you know that one........erm................I think that's a all'
'Are you sure' says Santa, 'remember I can bring you anything you want at Christmas'.
'Oh OK then, I'll have Michael Carrick back from Manchester'. 'Fcuk of Juande, I might be Santa Claus, but there are some things that even I can't deliver.'

:grin:

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Two things to consider - 1) The recent articles taking all of Carricks comments about Berbatov out of context and 2) To sell him was f*cking stupid in the first place, for the board to now sanction spending just shy of what we sold him for to bring him back is basically the board saying "Yep, we wouldn't listen when Jol told us to keep him, but we're backpeddling and spending all that we earned on him in the first place."

Remember, it was the board and Comolli that sold Carrick, not Jol, so to boast about how they gouged £18.5m out of Man U for him when we initially payed so much less, then to splash almost the same a couple of seasons later is BAD business to me and makes upstairs look like a bunch of fools.

I'd love to see Carrick back at the Lane, but it's not going to happen and as each day passes i have less and less faith in the board.

 

[Stoof]

For a midfield crying out for the demonstrative, overflowing with personality bypasses and serial anonymity, buy another one?

A novel idea? How about we just find a midfielder who can run, pass, tackle, and head, with no inclination to invisibility?

If we had Michael Carrick in the team last year without all the business of him being transferred we would have finished in the Top 4. No doubt.

He was pivotal. But then some fans only thought he 'passed sideways' all the time. A bit like they do with Jenas.

It won't ever happen, but let's not slag him off - he was quality for us, unadulterated sexytime quality.

 

[Kurtzen]

Stoof....by way of a comparison? Our away form with or without Carrick? Was rubbish, has been for a long time. He was/is not a 'complete' midfielder, nor the 'generalisimo' revisionists claim him to be. Good? yes. 18 million? Absurd.

I'd flogged the theme that he was more suited to an AM role 2 years back...I'd also warn out the record of 'our main problem is the CM'....while the herd banged on about the LM. We needed 'authoritay' then, more so now. Top 4 with the current crop, with or without Carrick......you is haven a laugh!

:razz:

 

[Stoof]

Stoof....by way of a comparison? Our away form with or without Carrick? Was rubbish, has been for a long time. He was/is not a 'complete' midfielder, nor the 'generalisimo' revisionists claim him to be. Good? yes. 18 million? Absurd.

I'd flogged the theme that he was more suited to an AM role 2 years back...I'd also warn out the record of 'our main problem is the CM'....while the herd banged on about the LM. We needed 'authoritay' then, more so now. Top 4 with the current crop, with or without Carrick......you is haven a laugh!

:razz:

The Carrick transfer was the single most heart-ripping-out of a side move in the entire division. The disruption it caused was immense - we had to fundamentally revise how we played our football. We'd built a side around him.

I'm not going to go on about the ins and outs of how great he was because it's just very repetitive. But with the improvements to our squad when we lost him (i.e. Berbatov, Malbranque, Chimbonda) I think we would have pushed on.

But it's all hypotheticals.

 

[AllSeeingEye]

It is true, as Stoof points out, that Carrick was our beating heart, and his passing however "crabby", as some have termed it, helped put us in the spots we were in.

We scraped 5th last season, but with him i think we could have made 4th, and secured a cup.

However, the lack of loyalty he showed the manager by getting so wilfully tapped up by his England compatriots from Man U made me start to dislike him.

Also, this story is obviously bollocks, so I don't know why anybody is even bothered...

 

[tRiKS]

the lazy gutter snipes will have an even easier time on spurs this window.

1) Any seville player
2) BERB out to anyone

so the Carrick coming back will probably be one of the more creative ones.

If Jol were still here i could see a Berb for Carrick + cash but I don't think for one second Ramos has even considered Carrick at any price.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Two things to consider - 1) The recent articles taking all of Carricks comments about Berbatov out of context and 2) To sell him was f*cking stupid in the first place, for the board to now sanction spending just shy of what we sold him for to bring him back is basically the board saying "Yep, we wouldn't listen when Jol told us to keep him, but we're backpeddling and spending all that we earned on him in the first place."

Remember, it was the board and Comolli that sold Carrick, not Jol, so to boast about how they gouged £18.5m out of Man U for him when we initially payed so much less, then to splash almost the same a couple of seasons later is BAD business to me and makes upstairs look like a bunch of fools.

I'd love to see Carrick back at the Lane, but it's not going to happen and as each day passes i have less and less faith in the board.

may aswell keep going with the fiasco that is tottenham whilst we're still licking our wounds. don't think it could be anymore embarassing for them :lol:

remember the sugar klinsmann fiasco (thats twice i've used the word fiasco :-( ) sugar had to get him back despite looking like a royal ****

 

[Krafty]

I wouldnt want him back, I would want better. I think we did really well to get 14 million, andit was a good transfer for everyone. I dont think he was going to improve with us, and I hoped for his sake Fergie did something with him to make a more potent threat. But he hasnt been able to do that. He has become a little bit better, getting forward a bit more, but he is never going to become world class and I think he will be overtaking by Anderson, nevermind Hargreaves, in the Utd midfield.

We need something more than just a passer. When we had Carrick we still needed Jenas and Davids to do the job of two central midfielders. If we want to improve we need to have two complete and complimentary midfielders.

If he was available for 5 mill or less, then snap him up, but if we are going to spend big we need a big player, someone who is outstanding in more than one area.