Catalonia independence kill off La Liga?

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  1. Matthew Gilbert

    Matthew Gilbert Active Member

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    While this article does appear as hear say, it does pose an interesting question about what would happen with the Catalonian clubs, especially Barcelona.

    With all the money and politics involved with Barcelona and Madrid, I just can't see that La Liga would want to lose Barca, especially Real as the value of the league would be less than the Championship. The whole league model and popularity is based off these two clubs. However, the ball appears in Barca's court as they could effectively choose where they would want to play. Could quite easily see them in Ligue 1 with PSG and Monaco.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...atalan-independence-vote-ballot-a7975266.html
     
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  2. Dougal

    Dougal Staff Staff

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    They’ll stay put. You can’t recreate El Classico somewhere else.

    That said, if TV shouts enough people believe the hype.
     
  3. John48

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    Would be interesting to see how they would vote if they were told Barca would have leave La Liga, could end up with Barca & Espanyo playing one another every week.
     
  4. theShiznit

    theShiznit Well-Known Member

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    The whole "vote" thing was a joke, as many people (mainly pro staying part of Spain) were told to stay away from the vote as it was not legitimate and there could be violence. Can't see how it can go ahead in light of that, but the Spanish government aren't making it easy for themselves by making threats.
     
  5. John48

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    So is the solution to let them have an official vote & encourage everyone to vote or they won't go down that route, because that would be binding?
     
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  6. absolute bobbins

    absolute bobbins Vous Êtes Des Assassins

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    It wouldn’t change a thing, if you’re Catalan and support Barca then you want independence, the reason Espanyol have their name is self explanatory.
     
  7. WorcesterTHFC

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    They'd have to square it with UEFA and FIFA first, wouldn't they? There's no guarantee that such clearance would be given. I have a feeling that even if (still a big 'if') Catalunya becomes independent, La Liga will find a compromise and allow/encourage the Catalan clubs to stay, a bit like the half-dozen Welsh clubs playing in the English system or Monaco playing the French league.
     
  8. theShiznit

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    That's the only viable solution IMO.

    But the Spanish government just had no recourse other than saying it's illegal unless we say so. Probably out of fear of them voting to leave but I can't see what option they have now.

    I imagine if a vote legitimised by the Spanish government does happen there will be a lot higher turnout than 40%
     
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  9. WorcesterTHFC

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    I find it a bit ironic that Espanyol use the Catalan spelling, rather than the Spanish spelling, which drops the 'y' and has that squiggly line above the 'n'. Or is the club trying to be Catalan and Spanish at the same time?
     
  10. 'O Zio

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    Even in the unlikely even that Calalunya gets independence, I highly doubt the team, especially Barca, will be going anywhere. It's in both La Liga and the club's best interests financially for things to stay as they are.

    That's partly because they were trying to distance themselves from Franco and all that. Traditionally they were the team of the government officials/civil servants etc. (i.e. Franco's cronies) who were from Madrid, but based in Barcelona. They used to spell the name the Spanish way but changed it.
     
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  11. talkshowhost86

    talkshowhost86 Mod-Moose Staff

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    Oi!

    What about Girona FC?!
     
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  12. Woland

    Woland Old Spice

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    If I was Espanyol, I'd do a Cardiff. Stay in La Liga and capitalize on Catalan heritage to regain relevance and fan base.
    Let Barca rot in the Catalan league with only meaningful games being in CL qualification round.

    That said, independence is not happening, plus Barca will never leave La Liga either way.
     
  13. beats1

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    Barcelona wont leave la liga, the only way they would do it, if they could start a european super league

    UEFA and La Liga love barca as they make them a lot of money
     
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  14. Trix

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    They could tour the world like the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals
     
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  15. punky

    punky ONE MICHAEL DAWSON!

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    It would make a mockery out of the European League system if a club can just decide to play in a different country.

    Swansea is one thing, but choosing a different league several countries across the continent is just crazy.
     
  16. John48

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    Not necessarily their choice, the Spanish FA could say you're no longer Spanish, therefore, on your bike.
     
  17. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Just call me Baz

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    La Liga might want them to stay but can't see the spanish government wanting them.
     
  18. 'O Zio

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    Presumably they don't have any influence over who La Liga include in the league though? Either way, I bet they definitely will want them in the league because they generate huge money, which winds up back with the government through all the taxes etc.
     
  19. worcestersauce

    worcestersauce "I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope

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    They won't be allowed to split off from Spain anyway but nevertheless the idea of playing in France might not appeal to the French government, Barca has a strong support in the French Catalan area and they wouldn't want anything that might foster Catalan "unification" with Spanish Catalonia.
     
  20. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Just call me Baz

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    Ofcourse the government has a say. They can tell them what days to play their games, it was they that brought in the new tv rights deal (that will eventually make the distribution more equal).
    If the government are buthurt about catalonia leaving then they could easily tell barca to fuck off.

    Not that catalonia will leave in anycase.

    (By the by it was the spanish government whom decided that barca was a charity so didn't have to pay taxes).
     

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