Champions League 5-6 March

[SpurSince57]

Of course it wouldn't - I'm a spurs fan not a utd fan for starters!

Secondly they have been on the positive end of more dodgy decisions than they have been negative. Nani did himself no favours at all with his rolling around pretending to be injured as it made it look like he had something to hide- a point which seems to have been missed and could well have influenced the refs thinking.

Also I didn't hear too many utd fans feeling sorry for us about refereeing decisions with the mendes goal, the various Howard Webb debacles against them, nanis goal against Gomes that time ( Gomes fault or not it was pretty poor form by nani)

Karma came back and kicked them in the balls and I was happy to see it

In the end, though, that's by the bye, isn't it? Of course there's a good deal of schadenfreude to be had from United's being on the receiving end of a crap decision, but the worrying point is how the hell characters like this get to be on FIFA's elite list (or whatever it's called).

 

[Misfit]

Agree - but would you be totally surprised, especially in Europe?

Why did they go to pieces as a team - they have enough experience at that club to defend a lead?

Yep, not unexpected in Europe. Hell, we've even had those kinds of decsisons go against us in the "ruff and tumble" prem.

Your second point is spot on. The game completely changed with the sending off. It's to be expected to a degree of course but Yanited allowed it to happen by not even reacting for several minutes. They allowed the momentum to change so much it was impossible to stop by the time they reacted. The actions you'd expect from a very inexperienced team and manager tbh.

RM will have to improve a fair bit if they want to win the CL anyway. If they play like they did in this tie against a Dortmund, Juve or especially Bayern, they'll be turfed out unceremoniously.

 

[SteveH]

Yep, not unexpected in Europe. Hell, we've even had those kinds of decsisons go against us in the "ruff and tumble" prem.

Your second point is spot on. The game completely changed with the sending off. It's to be expected to a degree of course but Yanited allowed it to happen by not even reacting for several minutes. They allowed the momentum to change so much it was impossible to stop by the time they reacted. The actions you'd expect from a very inexperienced team and manager tbh.

RM will have to improve a fair bit if they want to win the CL anyway. If they play like they did in this tie against a Dortmund, Juve or especially Bayern, they'll be turfed out unceremoniously.

RM were off their current form by a country mile. MU did a very good job in breaking the game up and were one up for christ sake.........SAF should take a good look in the mirror - he did a Mancini, lost it with Tevez in CL - they both stopped managing and just reacted.

Take note AVB

 

[Riandor]

My own is THFC. I have no allegiance to UTD just because they are a prem team.

We have to be one of the few countries in Europe where this is the case...

Living in Germany, even all the Bayern fans i know were cheering on Dortmund to progress in the CL. In the league you support your own, in Europe you support your "nation". That is how it works in the European countries I have been in other than UK.

Just saying...

 

[fortworthspur]

you are in danger of injuring an opponent every time you step on the pitch.

 

[Syn_13]

We have to be one of the few countries in Europe where this is the case...

Living in Germany, even all the Bayern fans i know were cheering on Dortmund to progress in the CL. In the league you support your own, in Europe you support your "nation". That is how it works in the European countries I have been in other than UK.

Just saying...

Not necessarily in all of Europe. In Italy you cheer against your rivals. I fully expect Milan/Juve fans to cheer on Spurs on Thursday and Milan/Inter fans to cheer Celtic tonight.

Then again, in Italy, it is expected of players to celebrate against their old clubs. Rivalries are a little more intense over there.

 

[LSUY]

Oh dear. Why are there so many idiots in the world?

http://www.nottinghamshire.police.u...ll/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[talkshowhost86]

Not necessarily in all of Europe. In Italy you cheer against your rivals. I fully expect Milan/Juve fans to cheer on Spurs on Thursday and Milan/Inter fans to cheer Celtic tonight.

Then again, in Italy, it is expected of players to celebrate against their old clubs. Rivalries are a little more intense over there.

Good.

I hate it when players don't celebrate against their old club unless they have a very good reason not to.

 

[tiger666]

UEFA getting involved

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21691929

Uefa takes action against Manchester United after Real Madrid match
Uefa has begun disciplinary proceedings against Manchester United following their Champions League defeat by Real Madrid on Tuesday.
European football's governing body is taking action over Nani's red card and the non-fulfilment of post-match media obligations at Old Trafford.
More soon.

Also, what a bellend...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-21687292

A football fan was so disgusted with the referee's decision to send off Nani in Tuesday's Champions League clash with Real Madrid he called 999.
The 18-year-old Manchester United supporter was watching at home in a village near Bingham, Nottinghamshire.
He felt the red card shown to the United winger was a crime so called police.
He later apologised for the call, saying he was caught up in the moment. Police will not take any action.
'Waste our time'
The fan, who has not been named, called police at about 21:20 GMT during United's second leg clash against the Spanish giants.
He was incensed by the referee's decision to show Nani the red card for a high challenge on Alvaro Arbeloa.
Ch Insp Ted Antill said: "While this recent example may be amusing, it illustrates the sort of insincere calls we have to deal with on a daily basis in the control room.
"They waste our time and they direct us away from genuine victims of crime, particularly if we dispatch officers out to something that turns out to be a bogus report."
He warned that prank 999 calls were a crime and said people had been prosecuted in the past.
"It's no joke. In this case, the man realised his bad judgement and apologised and we decided not to pursue it further," he added.
Nottinghamshire Police said it received 6,933 recorded hoax calls in 2012, which is about 2% of all reported incidents.
Had Tuesday's 999 caller followed Sir Alex Ferguson's example, he would have avoided a police telling off - the Manchester United manager was said afterwards to be "too distraught" to speak about the match.
The game turned after the dismissal of Portuguese winger Nani - whose real name is Luis Carlos Almeida da Cunha - with Real Madrid scoring two quick goals to win the match 2-1, knocking United out of the competition 3-2 on aggregate.

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

Dortmund Kop last night.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

Not that different

 

[Syn_13]

Not that different

Actually, it is a lot different. No one tries to head the ball by jumping with their leg extended out towards a player that you know is right in front of you and more likely to win the ball. Even if he's "looking at the ball" he surely knows Evra is there and is more likely to win it.

Nani wasn't challenging for a header. He's trying to trap a ball in the air that's coming down at a reasonable height and there's a good chance he didn't know Arbeloa was there. Any player would've gone for that ball in such a high pressure match and most would do it because they know their gaffer would bollock them if they didn't go for balls like that, and too right too.

I'm no Utd fan or sympathiser, but I've been sent off for a very similar thing to that before so I know how fucking frustrating a decision it is. It's a yellow at most.

 

[E17yid]

We have to be one of the few countries in Europe where this is the case...

Living in Germany, even all the Bayern fans i know were cheering on Dortmund to progress in the CL. In the league you support your own, in Europe you support your "nation". That is how it works in the European countries I have been in other than UK.

Just saying...

Fair enough mate. I'd put it down to different cultures. Maybe it's more tribal in England?

We all know ze Germans like to gather on mass to get behind the nation, he he.

 

[tototoner]

have to laugh at this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-21687292

A football fan was so disgusted with the referee's decision to send off Nani in Tuesday's Champions League clash with Real Madrid he called 999.
The 18-year-old Manchester United supporter was watching at home in a village near Bingham, Nottinghamshire.
He felt the red card shown to the United winger was a crime so called police.
He later apologised for the call, saying he was caught up in the moment. Police will not take any action.
The fan, who has not been named, called police at about 21:20 GMT during United's second leg clash against the Spanish giants.

He was incensed by the referee's decision to show Nani the red card for a high challenge on Alvaro Arbeloa.
Ch Insp Ted Antill said: "While this recent example may be amusing, it illustrates the sort of insincere calls we have to deal with on a daily basis in the control room.
"They waste our time and they direct us away from genuine victims of crime, particularly if we dispatch officers out to something that turns out to be a bogus report."
He warned that prank 999 calls were a crime and said people had been prosecuted in the past.
"It's no joke. In this case, the man realised his bad judgement and apologised and we decided not to pursue it further," he added.
Nottinghamshire Police said it received 6,933 recorded hoax calls in 2012, which is about 2% of all reported incidents.
Had Tuesday's 999 caller followed Sir Alex Ferguson's example, he would have avoided a police telling off - the Manchester United manager was said afterwards to be "too distraught" to speak about the match.
The game turned after the dismissal of Portuguese winger Nani - whose real name is Luis Carlos Almeida da Cunha - with Real Madrid scoring two quick goals to win the match 2-1, knocking United out of the competition 3-2 on aggregate.

 

[riggi]

We have to be one of the few countries in Europe where this is the case...

Living in Germany, even all the Bayern fans i know were cheering on Dortmund to progress in the CL. In the league you support your own, in Europe you support your "nation". That is how it works in the European countries I have been in other than UK.

Just saying...

I hate it when comentators make comments like 'the whole nation is behind utd' etc. Such a load of bollocks, i always cheer on the foreign team, apart from when Fulham got into the final.

 

[tototoner]

unless the English co-efficient is in danger I find little reason to support other English teams in Europe

 

[tototoner]

Celtic started very well tonight, awful conditions

 

[yawa]

Celtic started very well tonight, awful conditions

I really struggle to wish Celtic any luck with Lennon in charge.

 

[tototoner]

Juve 1-0

 

[yawa]

They just need to score 4 then.