What's new

Chelsea sign Michy Batshuayi

dagraham

Well-Known Member
Sep 20, 2005
19,115
46,080
Lots of comments on Levy not paying the fee, blah blah blah. Same old "tight Levy" money focused nonsense.

Reality is apparently the fee was north of £30m, allegedly Batman wanted £100k a week. 5 year deal takes the total outlay to £55m. That is before considering agent fees and the wage rises the rest of our squad would then demand to have pay parity.

It is a massive outlay on someone who has talent, but is currently still inconsistent and unproven in PL.

Poch spoke about finding value, being smart, in the transfer market. What is smart about spunking £55m minimum on Bats?

We are spending circa £700m on a stadium. We cannot afford to gamble £50m+ on ONE player.

Sorry, but where is this 100k+ a week coming from or are we just assuming that because it's the chavs?
 

tiger666

Large Member
Jan 4, 2005
27,978
82,214
Agree. Just because JJ has come in with a rosy outlook doesn't mean that it's not the club making the best of a bad situation.

I love this. People hang on every word of ITK and throw shit about when it doesn't come to fruition yet, when an ITK comes in with words of calm and sense, it's just club propaganda.
 

FreddieYid

Well-Known Member
Aug 1, 2011
1,369
4,020
I quite like... Benteke, if he'd take a wage cut, I feel could be motivated by Poch to do this job.

Dear lord... :eek:

Have you seen the way we play? I assume you have, therefore one of the following must be true...

1. You've never seen him play.
2. You've lost your mind.
3. You're Sam Allardyce.
 

Trix

Well-Known Member
Jul 29, 2004
19,337
329,025
It would be better if we all could accept that it's at least not beyond the realm of possibility that somebody messed up.

I suppose it depends how you define messed up. We may have messed up in the fact we didn't get our first choice target, but on the other hand we followed ourset out game plan throughout. We were only going to get him as long as we were his only viable option. The only upside to this is that it was always going g to be sorted one way or the other before the window actually opened.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

Well-Known Member
Jul 10, 2008
15,980
48,499
Expensive bench warmer and he wanted to play weekly as not the type to wait about with Kane being no 1 in our system.
We were never going to pay over the odds for him and that became apparent a few months ago allegedly.
Poch is fine and the other option will work out better in the long run.

Great, thanks for backing up what many of have been saying - £30m+ for a back up striker was never going to happen.
 

yido_number1

He'll always be magic
Jun 8, 2004
8,645
16,810
Who genuinely believes it makes sense to sign a player for 30m who isn't going to be first choice? As soon as the price went up you knew it wasn't going to happen. Interested to see how quickly we have moved on our other target and how soon we can get someone through the door.
 

yido_number1

He'll always be magic
Jun 8, 2004
8,645
16,810
I reckon its all my fault for opening these threads too early :cautious:

You have to laugh at the moaners, a day before the window opens officially complaining we've only signed one player that will improve our squad... Frankly if we get a striker before the season starts that will be a massive improvement on our squad and most of the weak points addressed.
 

Trix

Well-Known Member
Jul 29, 2004
19,337
329,025
Agree. Just because JJ has come in with a rosy outlook doesn't mean that it's not the club making the best of a bad situation. He is only passing on what he hears from our end.

Of course on the flip side, we genuinely could have cooled our interest months ago. Although if that is the case then I find it strange that we haven't tried to wrap up the Jansenn deal earlier.
We didn't cool our interest months ago. He said it became apparent months ago that we were not willing to pay the full price OM wanted. We just played it out hoping to get him at our valuationt, that hasn't happened
 

dagraham

Well-Known Member
Sep 20, 2005
19,115
46,080
We didn't cool our interest months ago. He said it became apparent months ago that we were not willing to pay the full price OM wanted. We just played it out hoping to get him at our valuationt, that hasn't happened

Fair enough.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

Well-Known Member
Jul 10, 2008
15,980
48,499
Nothing official has been said, but there has been plenty of reliable itk and respectable media outlets reporting that he's been a long standing target, one, moreover, that we had a personal agreement with to join us this summer. One report from a local French newspaper today, with no agenda to pursue that I'm aware of, was quite clear that we not only had an agreement with the player but with the club aswell, and that Levy failed to close the deal. It wouldn't be the first time he dicked around with the signing of potentially world class talent, just ask Aubemeyang.

Maybe when the price went up Levy/Poch decided it was too much to pay for a back up? Maybe Bats and his agent wanted to wait around for bigger clubs to come in who would pay more wages? Maybe Marseille delayed any deal until they got the £33m they were demanding?

We just don't know. It's absolutely ridiculous that fans get irate about things they know little or nothing about.
 

Archibald&Crooks

Aegina Expat
Admin
Feb 1, 2005
55,533
204,721
The only upside to this is that it was always going g to be sorted one way or the other before the window actually opened.
Indeed, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out given the ITK that Poch wants two forwards brought in this summer. The next fortnight could be interesting.......
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

Well-Known Member
Jul 10, 2008
15,980
48,499
Of course not. But Spurs fans in this forum have been led to believe that people 'in the know' - presumably connected to the Club in some way - have said that Batshuayi was a major target. Indeed I believe that Pochettino himself confirmed the Club's interest in the player.

It's such a shame that if negotiations have been going on for six months, and the coach has indicated interest in the player, that Levy has not been able to make the potential deal a reality.

In a way this reminds me of the Musacchio debacle when it seems we were (once again) in serious negotiations and the deal failed to materialize in the end - for a reason that should/could have been apparent at the earliest stages of contact.

These 'failures' to make things happen seem to happen on a regular basis.

It's frustrating!

These 'failures' to get deals done happen to every single club around the world. They just seem more apparent with us because you're following them blow by blow through ITK, on here and the media.
 

tobi

Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose
Jun 10, 2003
17,445
11,564
I don't blame the player for wanting to play regularly, a lot of teams want him so why join a club where you won't play regularly?

On to the next one.
 

Everlasting Seconds

Well-Known Member
Jan 9, 2014
14,914
26,616
It also said the deal included signing Benjamin Mendy, so I then realised it was pretty much bollocks.
Not sure why you would leap to that assumption? Not saying that we should spend loads of energy looking for a LB, but if the option presented it self and was staring us down, then I'd be interested. I definitely think that the weakest FB in our squad is on the left side of the pitch.

I suppose it depends how you define messed up. We may have messed up in the fact we didn't get our first choice target, but on the other hand we followed ourset out game plan throughout. We were only going to get him as long as we were his only viable option. The only upside to this is that it was always going g to be sorted one way or the other before the window actually opened.
I genuinely like your optimism. And I do understand what you are saying, it's still "only" June. I think we should take that as an opportunity and not rush into any secondary deal. In my personal view, there is no alternative option being talked about that I think we should be in a rush to get. So take a step back and rethink our possibilities for that striker option. I'm not on board with the "oh we are only looking for a back up anyway" rhetorics. Everybody knows that an incoming player gets the chance to prove him self. And I'm not saying it would be easy to give Kane proper competition, but it is certainly not impossible, he is only human. I'd rather pay more for a striker who fancy his chances than pay less for a striker who *wants* to sit on the bench. The latter type of player, in my mind, will not necessarily even be ready for first team PL footie in 2016. So we can potentially be paying millions of pounds to basically be stuck with status quo. Wouldn't it be ironic if we didn't spend X millions because that's so much money, but we spent X - Y millions only to see all CL matches come and go before the new, shiny striker even has started his first important match?
 

FibreOpticJesus

Well-Known Member
Aug 14, 2005
2,788
4,991
I don't blame the player for wanting to play regularly, a lot of teams want him so why join a club where you won't play regularly?

On to the next one.

Who says he is going to play regularly? He will be a rich bench warmer like he is for Belgium. I never thought he was good enough for us. He seems to have the wrong attitude for the Poch's Army and the filth from West London have blown a small part of their transfer fund on someone who will not get a lot of game time and will be disruptive. He could even end up being loaned out at Christmas. They have no European football. It is always possible that they will also buy another striker!
 

Shadydan

Well-Known Member
Jul 7, 2012
38,247
104,143
Who says he is going to play regularly? He will be a rich bench warmer like he is for Belgium. I never thought he was good enough for us. He seems to have the wrong attitude for the Poch's Army and the filth from West London have blown a small part of their transfer fund on someone who will not get a lot of game time and will be disruptive. He could even end up being loaned out at Christmas. They have no European football. It is always possible that they will also buy another striker!

This is just wishful thinking isn't it?
 

Richthfc79

Active Member
Sep 2, 2007
52
109
I'm not happy that we have missed out on bats. But if he did want 100 grand a week as has been quoted, that means he would be on more than Verts, Toby, Dembele and eriksen. Wouldn't be great for the morale of the rest of squad and they would be banging on levy's door wanting the same or more. We still have to juggle our finances until the stadium is done imo which is frustrating as we are seeing Liverpool, West Ham etc splash it around.
 

Trix

Well-Known Member
Jul 29, 2004
19,337
329,025
Indeed, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out given the ITK that Poch wants two forwards brought in this summer. The next fortnight could be interesting.......

I have been told repeatedly two forwards, but the emphasis has always been on the word 'forwards', not strikers. IMO one will more likely be more of a utility player, again just my opinion!
 
Top