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ajspurs

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Eriksen is very much a rough diamond. There'll be games where it looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

But having him in the side makes a massive difference to mentality, especially for the fans. When we see him on the pitch, even if he hasn't had a good game, we think he might be able to conjure something up out of nothing. There aren't many players that have that effect, especially not at our club.

And regardless, if we get a free kick in the last minute at 1-1, and he's sitting on the bench with Lennon and Sigurdsson swanning around, you'll wonder what the fuck is going on.

I think a 'rough diamond' is a good way to describe him really.

I don't really feel that with him in respect of him maybe being able to conjure something out of nothing though, unless you're talking from dead ball situations. A lot of the time I don't really greatly notice him on the pitch and when he does get the ball in those quiet periods he doesn't look very assured.
To be honest I felt Lamela was more of a 'something out of nothing' player when he was on the pitch just because of his look of energy and sort of vibrancy on the ball, even if (at least IMO) his overall performances were never really convincing.
 

Rout-Ledge

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I don't really feel that with him in respect of him maybe being able to conjure something out of nothing though, unless you're talking from dead ball situations. .

I was thinking of dead balls, but also the ability to spot a pass that other players wouldn't be able to.
 

jezz

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I think a 'rough diamond' is a good way to describe him really.

I don't really feel that with him in respect of him maybe being able to conjure something out of nothing though, unless you're talking from dead ball situations. A lot of the time I don't really greatly notice him on the pitch and when he does get the ball in those quiet periods he doesn't look very assured.
To be honest I felt Lamela was more of a 'something out of nothing' player when he was on the pitch just because of his look of energy and sort of vibrancy on the ball, even if (at least IMO) his overall performances were never really convincing.
Got to disagree on Lamela performances.
He has an eye for a defence splitting pass and assisted quite a few goals.
He passes and moves in to space very well, pity some of his team mates dont seem to be on the same wave length.
He played well against Cardiff and its no coincidence that Holtby was heavily involved with the goal.
He actually played well against Villa in the cc cup, again with Holtby.
Sheriff, stunning performance and again with Eriksen on the pitch with him they linked up well.
What AVB did after was probably the biggest cluster fuck this season, dropping him for Newcastle.
When these players take to the pitch together we seem to do well going forward.
I dont actually blame Tim for this, this was solely down to AVB, although sending holtby on loan has hardly helped his cause.
I would just like to see these players take to the pitch for a run of games together, not going to happen this season because Holtby is at Fulham.
I think Bentileb would love to link up with Eriksen and Lamela for a few games, he seems to be on there wave length.
 

ajspurs

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I was thinking of dead balls, but also the ability to spot a pass that other players wouldn't be able to.

That's what I thought we'd see him doing more of, personally. Although I do think he's the only player we have capable of playing certain adventurous passes.

Got to disagree on Lamela performances.
He has an eye for a defence splitting pass and assisted quite a few goals.
He passes and moves in to space very well, pity some of his team mates dont seem to be on the same wave length.
He played well against Cardiff and its no coincidence that Holtby was heavily involved with the goal.
He actually played well against Villa in the cc cup, again with Holtby.
Sheriff, stunning performance and again with Eriksen on the pitch with him they linked up well.
What AVB did after was probably the biggest cluster fuck this season, dropping him for Newcastle.
When these players take to the pitch together we seem to do well going forward.
I dont actually blame Tim for this, this was solely down to AVB, although sending holtby on loan has hardly helped his cause.
I would just like to see these players take to the pitch for a run of games together, not going to happen this season because Holtby is at Fulham.
I think Bentileb would love to link up with Eriksen and Lamela for a few games, he seems to be on there wave length.

I'm not really here to debate Lamela's contributions in detail as I've done it more than enough times on this site already and I can't be bothered to do so again to be honest mate. I get what you're saying, but I'm just one who wasn't greatly convinced by what I saw, but I could also see that he has lots of potential and I'm excited to see him return from injury.
 

jezz

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That's what I thought we'd see him doing more of, personally. Although I do think he's the only player we have capable of playing certain adventurous passes.



I'm not really here to debate Lamela's contributions in detail as I've done it more than enough times on this site already and I can't be bothered to do so again to be honest mate. I get what you're saying, but I'm just one who wasn't greatly convinced by what I saw, but I could also see that he has lots of potential and I'm excited to see him return from injury.

Agreed 100%
 

hodsgod

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Really?
Maybe i will reserve judgement on players until they have actually played a few consecutive games.
Instead of judging them based on few appearances here and there and being mismanaged.
Maybe you should try the same, Bale, Modric,Carrick, Beratov come to mind and they are just players who played for spurs.
How many times, all I ever said was they were disappointing. I think you will find most people agree with that. I judge on what I have seen so far. When they improve I will say so. It's called an honest opinion. If you can find a better adjective for our team and the £100m then please enlighten me. The problem is you don't seem to think I should have an opinion.

Why should I make my judgements based on your schedule, any good reason?

You chose to pick up on a comment where I described Eriksen as the best of the bunch, but he has been a bit hit and miss. Tell me where I was wrong.
 

jezz

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How many times, all I ever said was they were disappointing. I think you will find most people agree with that. I judge on what I have seen so far. When they improve I will say so. It's called an honest opinion. If you can find a better adjective for our team and the £100m then please enlighten me. The problem is you don't seem to think I should have an opinion.

Why should I make my judgements based on your schedule, any good reason?

You chose to pick up on a comment where I described Eriksen as the best of the bunch, but he has been a bit hit and miss. Tell me where I was wrong.
Please state what matches they have been disappointing and then tell when they have played well.
 

SlunkSoma

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I like the fact that he takes responsibility on the pitch. Against Benfica he was telling Lennon what to do. Lennon didn't seem impressed tbf, but good to see him taking the initiative.
 

hodsgod

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Please state what matches they have been disappointing and then tell when they have played well.
Forget it mate. You are acting stupid. I ask you direct questions and you just ignore them, and if you look back at many exchanges you will see you have done it many times.

Just look at my last post, and you really just reply with a question?
 

jezz

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Forget it mate. You are acting stupid. I ask you direct questions and you just ignore them, and if you look back at many exchanges you will see you have done it many times.

Just look at my last post, and you really just reply with a question?
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Forget it mate. You are acting stupid. I ask you direct questions and you just ignore them, and if you look back at many exchanges you will see you have done it many times.

Just look at my last post, and you really just reply with a question?
You say disappointing, i am just asking you to clarify what you mean?
You make it sound like they have been rubbish in every game which clearly is not true.
Give credit were its due and then i can except you criticism of the players.
 

hodsgod

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You say disappointing, i am just asking you to clarify what you mean?
You make it sound like they have been rubbish in every game which clearly is not true.
Give credit were its due and then i can except you criticism of the players.

You don't have to except it or accept it, where it's due or were it due.

I never ever said they have been rubbish, you really struggle with the English. Please look up the word disappointing. Please, please do make comments based on what I say, but don't mis quote me as I won't respond, why would I?
 

Bus-Conductor

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You think Eriksen's not having a great game then Sigurdsson comes on, and you realise Eriksen was actually doing pretty well.
 

jezz

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You don't have to except it or accept it, where it's due or were it due.

I never ever said they have been rubbish, you really struggle with the English. Please look up the word disappointing. Please, please do make comments based on what I say, but don't mis quote me as I won't respond, why would I?
You just did.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Eriksen is the only player in the squad who has vision, awareness and real passing ability. For that reason he should always start. He has always had problems with consistency though but as has been said, he's only 21.

One thing he does need though is to toughen up a bit. He gets brushed off the ball far too easily. Modric is a great example of a slight player who could still mix it with stronger players. I think this is a mindset though, as he was brought up in a more physical croatian league rather than the dutch league, which is a bit airy fairy.

You mean 'currently' right? I only ask because I'd say Holtby is perfectly capable of doing precisely what you (rightly) say Eriksen can do.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I'd love Eriksen to become our new Modric and play a little deeper. This season has shown how much you need a good passer and link player in the middle to start attacks.
Dembele is no where near good enough in the role he was used as yesterday. Little turn, run then either tackled or shit pass.
If Eriksen could develop his strength to be able to cope with the midfield battles, he'd be perfect

Again, and not wanting to sound like a stuck record, but Holtby could do the deep-lying playmaker role, and has openly stated that that's where he prefers to play. Personally, I'd have Holtby in a midfield 3, alongside Sandro and any from Dembele, Paulinho or Capoue, and leave Eriksen to create the craft in the final third of the pitch. Maybe something along the lines of (based on current defensive personnel)

Lloris

Walker, Kaboul (or Chiriches), Vertonghen, Rose

Paulinho, Sandro, Holtby

Lamela, Soldado, Eriksen

It would allow perfect rotation, Capoue for Sandro, Dembele for Paulinho, Townsend for either of Lamela or Eriksen, Same with Sigurdsson. Dembele could also rotate with either of the wide men in the front 3, Adebayor for Soldado (obviously) etc etc etc. I don't see how Sherwood (and AVB before him) aren't able to comprehend that our squad is, in my opinion, very much suited to a 4-3-3?

Sherwood is banging on about wholesale changes in the summer but, in my opinion, a simple formation change would enable us to actually PROPERLY SEE what our £107 million investment has added to our club. Also, haven't the majority of our summer signings previously been part of a 4-3-3 set-up? I know Paulinho was part of a 4-3-3 when he totally bossed the Confederations Cup. I believe Lamela was part of a 4-3-3 at Roma? Same with Eriksen at Ajax?

It's hard enough for players to settle in our country, in their new league, new culture, new manager etc etc etc. Surely it would at least help them a little if they were at least given a familiar system to play in? I'll wind my neck in now.
 
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eddiebailey

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Sherwood is banging on about wholesale changes in the summer

That interpretation of his comments are a stretch. He choose not to make any changes at all in January; now he has had a chance to evaluate the squad, he does see the need to make changes, not necessarily wholesale ones.

Tim is basically a 4-3-3 man, as was AVB; that neither has tended to play that system suggests reservations about the ability of the current squad to make that system work, but that may as you say be down to the fact the new signings have taken time to settle.
 

jezz

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That interpretation of his comments are a stretch. He choose not to make any changes at all in January; now he has had a chance to evaluate the squad, he does see the need to make changes, not necessarily wholesale ones.

Tim is basically a 4-3-3 man, as was AVB; that neither has tended to play that system suggests reservations about the ability of the current squad to make that system work, but that may as you say be down to the fact the new signings have taken time to settle.
How about trying the formation and then deciding.
Now is the perfect time, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
 

DEFchenkOE

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I want to see Eriksen in the middle
Again, and not wanting to sound like a stuck record, but Holtby could do the deep-lying playmaker role, and has openly stated that that's where he prefers to play. Personally, I'd have Holtby in a midfield 3, alongside Sandro and any from Dembele, Paulinho or Capoue, and leave Eriksen to create the craft in the final third of the pitch. Maybe something along the lines of (based on current defensive personnel)

Lloris

Walker, Kaboul (or Chiriches), Vertonghen, Rose

Paulinho, Sandro, Holtby

Lamela, Soldado, Eriksen

It would allow perfect rotation, Capoue for Sandro, Dembele for Paulinho, Townsend for either of Lamela or Eriksen, Same with Sigurdsson. Dembele could also rotate with either of the wide men in the front 3, Adebayor for Soldado (obviously) etc etc etc. I don't see how Sherwood (and AVB before him) aren't able to comprehend that our squad is, in my opinion, very much suited to a 4-3-3?

Sherwood is banging on about wholesale changes in the summer but, in my opinion, a simple formation change would enable us to actually PROPERLY SEE what our £107 million investment has added to our club. Also, haven't the majority of our summer signings previously been part of a 4-3-3 set-up? I know Paulinho was part of a 4-3-3 when he totally bossed the Confederations Cup. I believe Lamela was part of a 4-3-3 at Roma? Same with Eriksen at Ajax?

It's hard enough for players to settle in our country, in their new league, new culture, new manager etc etc etc. Surely it would at least help them a little if they were at least given a familiar system to play in? I'll wind my neck in now.

Unbelievable that we haven't played 433 for a run of say 5 games, even more unbelievable that we haven't seen that team in your post line up at all this season. It has the right balance for me and leaves great options on the bench like Lennon and Townsend to come on in the last half an hour and make a difference. The only thing I'd probably change is Ade in for Soldado but even with Soldado in it would be nice to see him playing with other intelligent players around him like in your lineup.

I would have just liked to have seen that team given a chance over a period of games to see what they could do. None of the managers are trying anything even close to it though.
 

Syn_13

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Before the weekend my Gooner colleague was telling me how he doesn't rate Eriksen that much, shows how much he knows.

I've said it before, we need to build the team around players like him. Linked up wonderfully with Soldado today, showing that with smart players you can get the best out Roberto as well. Next season, whoever the coach is, we need to set up around this boy and get Lamela more involved, because he's another youngster that's got the potential to be outstanding given the right coaching and opportunities.

There is some hope, after all.
 

Kiki

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He's our most talented player along with Lamela.

Unfortunately, we don't many many flamboyant players in the squad. We can't get the best out of him on a consistent basis with plodders like Lennon in the team.
 
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