Clive Allen "I'm Ready" !

[Destroyer]

Clive Allen has reportedly been jesting the players in training by insisting he is ready to step in - lol , i reckon he could do a much better job than what we got at the moment. These are the sort of footballers you need, those that want to be at the club, for life & give forever.

Theres not many like Clive around these days anymore unfortunately.

 

[Dougal]

I remember him fucking off to Bordeaux

 

[Fordy]

me too! and joining west ham, scoring the winner to get them promoted!

only joshing, i like ol clive.

 

[Dougal]

Me too

 

[dannythomas]

Clive Allen has reportedly been jesting the players in training by insisting he is ready to step in - lol , i reckon he could do a much better job than what we got at the moment. These are the sort of footballers you need, those that want to be at the club, for life & give forever.

Theres not many like Clive around these days anymore unfortunately.

Clive Allen was superb as our lone striker in 1986-7. I think he scored 50 goals that season. It is tempting to say that if he was playing up front this season he at the age of 50 would score more goals than DB . If only he would pass on the secrets to our present hit - man.

 

[Dougal]

It was only 49 :wink:

 

[scat1620]

Clive Allen was superb as our lone striker in 1986-7. I think he scored 50 goals that season. It is tempting to say that if he was playing up front this season he at the age of 50 would score more goals than DB . If only he would pass on the secrets to our present hit - man.

It's only tempting to say that if you have no idea about football whatsoever and a forest-sized chip on your shoulder about Darren Bent.

 

[dannythomas]

It's only tempting to say that if you have no idea about football whatsoever and a forest-sized chip on your shoulder about Darren Bent.

Who's the one with no sense of humour ? Sorry if I offended your sensitivities. As far as Bent is concerned I am yet to see anything that makes me think he would be anything better than out of his depth as our lone striker. As one of 3 strikers along with appropriate replacements for Keane and Berbatov he would get enough games to show if he can deliver or not. But to think we can rely on him as our only striking option is almost unthinkable.

Returning to the main point of this thread Clive Allen was the classic example of how effective a predatory striker can be in a 4-5-1 formation. So Bent could do a lot worse than look to him for advice.

 

[scat1620]

Who's the one with no sense of humour ? Sorry if I offended your sensitivities. As far as Bent is concerned I am yet to see anything that makes me think he would be anything better than out of his depth as our lone striker. As one of 3 strikers along with appropriate replacements for Keane and Berbatov he would get enough games to show if he can deliver or not. But to think we can rely on him as our only striking option is almost unthinkable.

Returning to the main point of this thread Clive Allen was the classic example of how effective a predatory striker can be in a 4-5-1 formation. So Bent could do a lot worse than look to him for advice.

Call it a sense of humour failure if you will, but if your post was a joke I didn't find it a very funny one. Whether that's down to me having no sense of humour or you posting a pretty unfunny post is for neither of us to decide.

Not saying I think Bent should be our only striking option: I'd agree that that would be a pretty unthinkable prospect, and you'll see that I didn't even hint at suggesting that.

Also, while I agree that Bent could indeed find far worse people to take pointers about playing as a lone striker than Clive Allen, it's absolutely undeniable to mention that the best football of Darren Bent's career has been played as the lone stiker in a 4-5-1 system (during his Charlton days). So to suggest that he is best suited to playing a role that's NOT as a lone striker in a 4-5-1 doesn't make sense to me. His ineffectiveness in the first two (repeat, two) games of this season has been as much the midfield's fault for not giving him the opportunity to get in behind defences as it has been Bent's fault, IMO.

 

[VegasII]

That would be pretty funny -the bugger would probably score as well.

 

[dannythomas]

Call it a sense of humour failure if you will, but if your post was a joke I didn't find it a very funny one. Whether that's down to me having no sense of humour or you posting a pretty unfunny post is for neither of us to decide.

Not saying I think Bent should be our only striking option: I'd agree that that would be a pretty unthinkable prospect, and you'll see that I didn't even hint at suggesting that.

Also, while I agree that Bent could indeed find far worse people to take pointers about playing as a lone striker than Clive Allen, it's absolutely undeniable to mention that the best football of Darren Bent's career has been played as the lone stiker in a 4-5-1 system (during his Charlton days). So to suggest that he is best suited to playing a role that's NOT as a lone striker in a 4-5-1 doesn't make sense to me. His ineffectiveness in the first two (repeat, two) games of this season has been as much the midfield's fault for not giving him the opportunity to get in behind defences as it has been Bent's fault, IMO.

Clive played in front of a midfield of Waddle- Ardiles- Hoddle- Paul Allen- Hodge. Now you could argue that on paper Lennon- Modric- Bentley-Jenas- Bale are not vastly dissimilar in terms of the way they play. I would agree that the 1987 midfield was more balanced but not hugely better. What worries me about Bent is that he does not have any subtlety in his game nor does he hold up the ball well to link up with the attacking midfielders we have. Those qualities are important in a lone striker and Clive had both.

 

[There's always next year]

Darren Bent is the most expensive greyhound on this planet.

A fucking terrible bit of business by all.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Bent will always get goals but to me most of his goals seem to be shinners, scuffers, neck/headers and mishits.

Just my opinion.

Clive Allen was the best poacher in a Spurs shirt since Jimmy Greaves.

 

[Yiddo777]

Clive played in front of a midfield of Waddle- Ardiles- Hoddle- Paul Allen- Hodge. Now you could argue that on paper Lennon- Modric- Bentley-Jenas- Bale are not vastly dissimilar in terms of the way they play. I would agree that the 1987 midfield was more balanced but not hugely better. What worries me about Bent is that he does not have any subtlety in his game nor does he hold up the ball well to link up with the attacking midfielders we have. Those qualities are important in a lone striker and Clive had both.

That 87 midfield is far superior to ours at the moment, 3 top world class players in there.

 

[Mr-T]

That 87 midfield is far superior to ours at the moment, 3 top world class players in there.

But the 87 team had Mitchell Thomas, surely that makes up for the superior midfield?.

 

[dannythomas]

That 87 midfield is far superior to ours at the moment, 3 top world class players in there.

If we had a good DM ( Paul Allen was not the greatest one in the world ) then Bentley, Modric, Hudd , Jenas and say Veloso would form a sound basis comparable to 87. Of course we dont have a Hoddle but on the other hand I never really rated Steve Hodge.

 

[Tel Boy]

Clive played in front of a midfield of Waddle- Ardiles- Hoddle- Paul Allen- Hodge. Now you could argue that on paper Lennon- Modric- Bentley-Jenas- Bale are not vastly dissimilar in terms of the way they play. I would agree that the 1987 midfield was more balanced but not hugely better. What worries me about Bent is that he does not have any subtlety in his game nor does he hold up the ball well to link up with the attacking midfielders we have. Those qualities are important in a lone striker and Clive had both.

IMO the 87 midfield was more than hugely better. The current team has no one near the quality of Hoddle, Waddle and Ardiles. Paul Allen remained a consistently good player untill the early 90's. We also had an ageing Tony Galvin as back-up.

Bent and Allen are completly different players. I personally think Bent would be better in a team that prefers to play long balls over the top of the opposing defence and use his pace.

(BTW I laughed at your original post ! )

 

[mkkid]

It was only 49 :wink:

it was 52,he scored a hatrick against some german side in a friendly.

 

[chivers!]

Clive played in front of a midfield of Waddle- Ardiles- Hoddle- Paul Allen- Hodge. Now you could argue that on paper Lennon- Modric- Bentley-Jenas- Bale are not vastly dissimilar in terms of the way they play.

Who's there now getting through as much work as Paul Allen used to?

 

[Destroyer]

But the 87 team had Mitchell Thomas, surely that makes up for the superior midfield?.

Dont forget Nico Claeson.